DVD cover for I Am Potential

An important inspirational back to school episode…

Just in time for back to school, join the IC gang and guest victim, Hollis Pierce, as we discuss the film I Am Potential (2015). The movie is based on the true story of Patrick Henry Hughes, exploring the struggles and triumphs of Patrick and his family, particularly his father, who had to adjust his (beer league basketball) expectations and dreams for his son.

Our conversation discusses the film’s portrayal of disability, the performances of the actors, and the film’s context within the broader landscape of disability representation in media. We also discuss the film’s focus on the father’s involvement in a local basketball league, the family’s financial struggles and wrap with a discussion about the film’s depiction of a charity telethon.

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Grading the Film

As always, this film is reviewed with scores recorded in four main categories, with 1 being the best and 5 being the worst. Like the game of golf, the lower the score the better.

How accurate is the representation?

Jeff – 4 / 5

sar – 3 / 5

Hollis – 4.5 / 5

Total – 11.5 / 15

How difficult was it to watch the movie?

sar – 4 / 5

Jeff – 2.5 / 5

Hollis – 4 / 5

Total – 10.5 / 15

How often were things unintentionally funny?

sar – 2 / 5

Jeff – 5 / 5

Hollis – 3.5 / 5

Total – 10.5 / 15

How far back has it put disabled people?

Jeff – 4 / 5

sar – 2 / 5

Hollis – 5 / 5

Total – 10 / 15

The Verdict

A Crime May Have Been Committed

Transcript – Part 1

[Episode begins with the youtube trailer for I Am Potential]

[Theme song: Mvll Crimes – Arguing With Strangers on the Internet]

Jeff:

You are listening to invalid Culture, a podcast dedicated to excavating the strangest and most baffling media representations of disability. This podcast is all about staring into the abyss of pop culture adjacent films that never quite broke through because well, they’re just awful. So buckle up folks. The following content is rated I for invalid. I’m arguing with strangers on the in internet, not going out today

sar:

Because I’m feeling too upset with strangers on the internet and I’m winning

Jeff:

And I’m winning. Welcome back to another thrilling edition of Invalid Culture Back to School Edition. As always, I am your host tired, Dr. Jeff Preston trying to survive the start of turn and I am joined of course by our co victim Sarah Curry. How you doing, Sarah?

sar:

I am doing pretty great. This is the first fall. I’m not going back, so that’s pretty neat. But I have a niece and a nephew starting junior and senior kindergarten and I’ve taken some responsibilities there, so that’s nerve wracking.

Jeff:

How about you? That’s why you look so right now.

sar:

That’s right. That’s right. You

Jeff:

Don’t have to.

sar:

I’m on my third coffee, but don’t worry about it.

Jeff:

Okay. I don’t even know what coffee is anymore. I just inject it as an iv. That’s where I’m at right now. Welcome to September, folks. We are of course not the only people here though because I’m a bad person and I like to torture others. We are joined today by public intellectual wheelchair honky phenom and the host of the 21st Century Disability Podcast, Ottawa own Hols Pierce. How you doing Hols?

Hollis:

Hello, Jeff. Dr. Preston, I apologize.

Jeff:

Oh yeah, no, Jeff is great. I’m good with Jeff.

Hollis:

I know you as Jeff. I know when I am torturing you on the hockey on the court. I know you as Jeff.

Jeff:

Yep, absolutely. Yeah, so tell us…not everyone knows you as well as I do. Yeah, but what should people know about your Hollis?

Hollis:

Well, Jeff, you gave me a very generous introduction there, but as you say, my name’s Hollis Pierce. I am the host of 21st Century Disability. I had my master’s degree at Carleton in history where my thesis was on academic accessibility and yeah, that’s about it. That’s about it.

sar:

Did everyone say you predicted the future afterwards?

Hollis:

Yeah, absolutely.

Jeff:

It’s always great being right in that way, isn’t it? Finally, yeah. Finally,

sar:

Hollis woke up, just went outside and started shouting to no one in particular. I told you all. I told you so.

Hollis:

Exactly.

Jeff:

Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much. While trying not to catch a virus.

sar:

Yeah,

Jeff:

So we had a real special treat put before us. It’s back to school, as I said, so I thought we should do a back to school movie and back to school really is all about the unknown, right? You’re going back into the classroom and all you’re thinking about is about the potential that lays ahead of you. Is this the year you get a’s is this the year that you get a boyfriend or a girlfriend? Is this the year that you don’t vomit on your teacher? All of these potentialities exist, and so I thought we should watch a movie that is full of potential or is it the movie is I Am Potential. Now, what is this movie about? From the box: Patrick Henry Hughes was a talented musician who always wanted to be part of something bigger than himself. He dreamed of one day joining the University of Louisville Marching Band, but there was one problem. Patrick Henry was born without eyes or the ability to walk before he was born. His father, Patrick John had his own goals of athletic glory for Patrick Henry. Now, will he be willing to truly sacrifice for his son to achieve his dreams? I am Potential is the inspiring true story of sacrifice, perseverance, and realize it one’s God given potential.

sar:

I didn’t put it together until you actually read the box because we watched it on Tubby, so we didn’t have a box. Is I am Potential speaking to the dad?

Jeff:

No, the son, the son is the potential. I believe Patrick Henry is the potential Patrick John,

sar:

But Patrick Henry is Patrick Henry the second, right?

Jeff:

No, the dad is Patrick. John, this is going to be a big problem in this episode, so I’m going to say going forward, if we say Patrick, we mean the Disabled Boy, child,

sar:

Teenager, Patrick Junior.

Jeff:

If we say Papa Patrick, we mean the dad.

sar:

Gotcha. I feel like most of the journey was actually the journey of Papa Patrick from Beer League basketball to the potential of helping his son in the, what was it, standup band. It was

Jeff:

A marching band. Marching band.

sar:

Marching band,

Jeff:

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I also thought when I first read this, I wondered, well, wait, the dad was a musician. How was that not articulated? And then I realized no, Patrick Henry is in the musician. Of course, despite the fact that the movie does appear to center on the bad, but that is neither here nor there. The other thing I should note before we go any further in this discussion is that this is of course based on a true story. This is real Patrick Henry Hughes, his dad, Patrick John Hughes. All of these people exist or so were told. The Illuminati says that they exist, and this is not the first time that they’ve been in media. They actually had their first media breakthrough on the fifth season of Extreme Makeover Home Edition. You might remember them as the family whose house was not accessible, and so they brought the family on, they renovated the house, made it accessible, and during the episode Patrick got to go and play some music in London, England.

He played Ray Charles, “what’d I say”, because of course, to the cast of the Lion King in London, England. The other shout out, I very rarely would make a shout out to Extreme Makeover, but this episode was quite some time ago, and I want to note that at the end of the episode, the Extreme Makeover team made a tactile model of the home that they renovated so that Patrick Henry was able to feel the exterior of the home to quote, see what the new house looks like, which I thought was actually a pretty interesting accessibility feature in a show that is predicated on seeing the difference, right? It’s all about before or after. So I was like, you know what? Shout out of Stream makeover for being like actually go. We’re going to show you.

sar:

That’s actually pretty neat. That accommodation is a cool accommodation. Instead of move that bus, move that hand around our board,

Jeff:

Move that hand. They not only did move that bus, they also did move that band, the band block, the field that they also renovated to make it well, nothing. They just made it a better field. That’s it. So anyway, the whole episode was really inspiration porny, but I’m going to give them one point for their tactile model. So shout out out to them. What about you, Hollis? How does this description, does this description match what you watched?

Hollis:

Yes, I think it is because I found the whole movie to have potential, but it never really reached its potential,

Jeff:

Not unlike myself,

Hollis:

And I think one of the main reasons, well yes, as you say Jeff, it had a lot of holes in the story, but also the actors that were cast were not very effective. Papa was not good and Patrick was a bit rich also.

sar:

That was the kindest burning down of a film I think I’ve ever heard.

Jeff:

Well, let’s attach some names to it. So who in the world made this film? So I think first and foremost you’ll notice that on the box there’s this shout out to God’s will, which is maybe a bit odd for those of you who watched it because it’s not a particularly religious film, but it is produced by a religious film company. So I think that’s probably where that comes from.

Hollis:

Oh, I didn’t know that,

Jeff:

But more interestingly, the film was written and directed by a man named Zach Minors who’s had a very quiet career. He’s young, he’s directed a few shorts and some other very poorly rated movies. His first movie, which he made before he was 21, was called Pivot Point and it was topical about a school shooting. This was I Am Potential was his follow-up film going from school shooting to inspiration porn. I suspect he did this story because he also is from Kentucky and his film profession company is actually based out of Louisville, so he would probably have known the Hughes. He may have gone to school with the Hughes, I’m not sure. Other interesting note. His most recent movie is a documentary, it’s called Conversion, and the plot of this film is he took an ex Mormon mom, he paired them with a drag queen and they explored the dangers of the conversion therapy industry, which is actually kind of rad given the religious bend of this film. So shout Zach. That’s pretty cool. I’m going to check that film out. I think

sar:

I was somewhat convinced that this film was at least partially funded by the University of Louisville or whatever the institution is down there because if you watch the film, which don’t, the first 20, 30 minutes are all ad spots for Louisville. It’s wild.

Jeff:

Yeah, absolutely. I honestly feel like if Louisville did not pay heavily for this film, Zach, take them to court. You need to sue them for what you’re owed. Absolutely. Now Daddy Patrick who we’ve mentioned probably the most recognizable star, sorry, second most recognizable star in this film, thank You, is played by of course Respect is played by Purchase Jenkins. You probably recognize him as Ray Birds from Remember The Titans or perhaps as Billy Abbott in the Young and the Restless. I did not know this and I love that fact. He was in many episodes of the Young and the Restless, which melodrama that kind of fits in this script. Perhaps

sar:

He gives young and the restless energy for sure.

Jeff:

Yeah, a little bit, absolutely. Yeah. The son Patrick is played by Jimmy Bellinger, who I actually looked it up and he does look quite a bit like the person that he’s playing, so this might be a situation where they cast purely based on looks. He’s also a fairly accomplished actor. He’s had a lot of TV roles over the last 15 years. His biggest role, and I put that in the biggest air quotes possible, was that he played the character Chad in the movie, I believe it’s technically called Blockers, but there’s always a rooster in front of the word blockers. It’s a comedy also don’t watch. It also appeared, and this is true in one episode of the TV show Glee, so

sar:

Yikes.

Jeff:

The other recognizable actor in this movie is of course Judge Reinhold, and if you don’t know who Judge Reinhold is, you are no friend of mine and I am not going to tell you

sar:

The most recognizable actor.

Jeff:

There were some names in this film actually, surprisingly.

sar:

Yeah, I don’t know how they did it. Maybe because of the Louisville funding, they funneled that right into the actor salaries.

Hollis:

I found the mom to be fairly recognizable also.

Jeff:

Yeah, the mom was played by Jana Williamson, who you probably recognize from Parks and Rec

sar:

Ahhhhh.

Hollis:

That’s it.

Jeff:

That’s it. Also in the Good Place or my personal favorite played the principle in the TV adaptation of School of Rock. Not the principal in School of Rock, but rather the TV version of School of Rock.

sar:

That would be the antagonist then, wouldn’t it?

Jeff:

Depending on what side you are on fascism. Yes.

sar:

Fair.

Jeff:

Now we of course have our own opinions of this film, but there are many other people far more qualified than us that have watched it and shared some ideas. Now the good news, bad news is there actually was not a lot of critical response from this film as you probably could imagine, but I did find one really interesting deep dive that was written on a website called Catholic Lane, and this was written by Sister Hana Burns. Shout out sister. I enjoyed your review of this film, but I want to read one little blip that actually caught my eye, which I thought was an interesting thing to talk about. So Sister Burns says about I’m potential, I’m just going to have to tell you a little bit of the plot here, but the joy of watching the film, it is a joy will be the well-executed details.

Do you want to witness a conversion? The depths of a father’s love observe, slowly bonding with his namesake who will never be an athlete but whom dad recognizes has a love and talent for music from his youngest years. These scenes could melt boulders and can be applied to any dad who has the eyes to see and appreciate who his child really is to give up trying to fill his own ideas and dreams through his progeny. I really thought dad was going to walk out for the whole first part of the movie, but just the opposite.

sar:

I mean it feels kind of cheap blaming this movie for the whole, and I want to say it’s an American film dynamic of washed up middle-aged dad who has a favorite sport and hopes that his firstborn son becomes like an Olympic athlete in that sport. I don’t want to blame this film for that, but I think the extent to which they take the melancholic scenes of him looking at footballs or looking at baseballs, these extended medium shots, I thought it was a little bit ridiculous.

Jeff:

Yeah, they really hammered that home. My question for you, Holli, did you believe that the dad was going to walk out on this family at any moment in this film?

Hollis:

Yes.

Jeff:

Really?

Hollis:

Yeah.

sar:

Tell me more.

Hollis:

Yes, I truly believed, especially up until that one night when he came home and the mom was saying, I’m learning too. I’m learning too, and you’re never here. And then Papa Patrick said, I am here, and then he looked at his watch and he is like, oh, I have basketball in 30 minutes basketball.

sar:

It was hilarious because I was watching it with Jeff and he called that at the beginning of the eighties, like this guy’s definitely about to go out to his beer league basketball game

Hollis:

And then the life is just like my point. Exactly. You’re never here.

sar:

Yeah. The dad, for as much interest as he had in his first born son, future Olympian, track, star, football star, et cetera, he really had no interest in the baby.

Jeff:

No he was checked out.

sar:

He was absent for that face.

Hollis:

And also one thing that blew my mind is no interest for the baby’s safety as well because he perched a newborn up on the top of a piano and it’s not even a Dred piano, so he doesn’t have space to roll around on. It’s very thin piano against a wall that’s like barely bigger than him. So if he throws a hissy fit, the baby is falling.

sar:

I love that you specified the prop that they got for that. It’s like the classic suburban kind of baby’s first piano. It’s wood, it kind of looks organ like and yeah, you’re right. The baby barely fits on top of it because their proletarian piano is just not suited for six month old children.

Hollis:

Exactly.

Jeff:

Are you guys telling me that you weren’t raised atop a piano? That’s not a normal baby experience. You’re telling me. Okay.

sar:

I wish.

Jeff:

Okay.

Hollis:

But also I found that up until as well as you guys mentioned how she was hoping for her pulled her back from Louisville or a star pitcher. I found that, is it just me or did they mention in the movie that the Pop Patrick had a degree in music?

Jeff:

So that’s an interesting question. They do seem to imply in the movie that there is sort of music in the family that is a thing, but I think they actually undersell in this film how much music is a thing in the Hughes household because we learn, if you are like me and you’ve watched that episode of Extreme Makeover that all of the children play multiple instruments. Their living room is basically a recorded studio. They have multiple guitars, drums, everything.

sar:

Well, that’s weird because there’s that detail where they’re kind of making a big minor plot detail out of, oh, we really don’t want to buy you the trumpet. We already have this perfectly good piano over here. You’re kind stressing us out. So to hear after the fact that it’s a whole musical inclined family kind of doesn’t check out as far as the screenplay goes.

Jeff:

There’s a whole menagerie and I think it draws into question this other argument that the sister bless her heart makes, which is this notion that the father isn’t out his dreams through the child, and I don’t want to get too far ahead of ourselves, but put it in your minds folks. Was it maybe just that the dream changed if you couldn’t do the sports dream, maybe you could do the music dream instead. There’s a bit of a family band kind of thing going on here, but you Hollis and the sister were not the only ones that tapped into this question of divorce. So too the Amazon user, JEK teacher, which I’m hoping doesn’t mean junior kindergarten, but JUK teacher gave this film a five stars. It was titled Inspiring. This is the whole review. I did not edit this. What a child with major handicaps is born into a family. It often leads to the parent’s divorce and an unhealthy family and this family, everyone overcame something and everyone in the family grew and thrived. When you watch this movie, you’ll be glad you did it’s keeper.

sar:

I think the youngest child, at least from the screenplay perspective, overcame being completely and entirely forgotten and not even being introduced to the audience. He just appeared at the breakfast table one day halfway through the film and we were like, oh, there’s three of them.

Jeff:

I don’t even know the brother’s names. No, that is how little that are mentioned in this film.

Hollis:

They barely, they’re at the dinner table one time and then they’re in the backyard with the grandpa and the swing breaks,

sar:

So they overcame total obliteration of identity, which I think is fairly remarkable.

Jeff:

It is important for us to know. We do know that one of the children liked video games because in one scene he is playing on Game Boy and wearing a T-shirt that says video games. We know that

sar:

It was an SP too, which felt, because this was supposed to be the nineties kind of turn of the two thousands. I think that’s inaccurate. When did the SP come out?

Jeff:

I’m going to blow your mind. Well, okay, we’re going to jump forward because I am going to come back to this question of when in the hell is this film set because it will shock you

sar:

Really? Okay.

Jeff:

Okay, so that is the JEK teacher. I want to dig a little bit into this thing though about children with major handicaps often lead into divorce. Now, I don’t want to call anyone into the chat here inappropriately, but this is actually something that my parents were told when I was diagnosed. They were told You’re probably going to get a divorce, so be ready for that.

sar:

Really?

Hollis:

Oh Wow. Okay.

Jeff:

Spoil alert: they didn’t.

Hollis:

My parents were just told that I wouldn’t live past one.

Jeff:

Okay, I got four. They told me I was going to make it to four

sar:

Hollis. Did your parents divorce though?

Hollis:

Mine?

sar:

Yeah.

Hollis:

Yes, my parents did divorce.

sar:

Oh, they did? Okay, so we got one-to-one. Our pool isn’t big enough.

Jeff:

50%.

Hollis:

Your parents did not?

Jeff:

They did not. Mine did not. They made it through. They made it through. But I always find this such an interesting thing because I wonder, do we basically precognition these divorces? If you’ve just had a disabled child and then you’re told, oh, by the way, these always had the divorce, how many of the divorces are caused by a seeding? This notion that the relationship is going to fall apart anyways

sar:

And it becomes kind of the Sandra Bullock premonition where once you’ve seen it you’re like, well, now this is destiny. This is happening.

Hollis:

That’s a very good point.

Jeff:

I wonder, I really wonder because it’s also something that seems hard to wrap your head around that there is a lot of research on this. Lots of people have written, there’s lots of theories as to why this might be the case. What I would love to know is how much of that data is purely based in North American context? Do we see divorces happening in same rates elsewhere? Yeah.

sar:

Yeah?

Jeff:

I would be very curious to know if it’s like that everywhere or if this is another great instance where the data set is heavily biased because it’s all done by Americans predominantly.

sar:

Well, that would be most quant data sets purely produced by Columbia and Duke.

Hollis:

Yeah, also, Americans do not have free healthcare, so

sar:

that’s true.

Hollis:

They’re probably super stressed out of paying for their disabled and child.

Jeff:

Absolutely. I really want, they do say that a main driver in divorce tends to be financial strain and financial disagreements. That’s a big pusher of it. So are we actually seeing parents divorce because of disability or are they divorcing because of the financial burdens that are placed on American families by a complete lack of support for people with disabilities in that fun country to the south? I wonder. Someone should research that. I wonder. I’m on it. I’m

Hollis:

I’m on it.

Jeff:

That’s the follow-up episode. Yeah. Hollis is going to get to the bottom of this by the time I’m on his podcast. Perfect. Now this movie wasn’t well received by pretty much anybody else. IMDB user, I have no idea how to pronounce this. B hogan, I think maybe b Hogan. BBK,Ogan. I’m not sure. This user gave it a five out of 10 with the title Double Whammy, which is now actually the title of my memoir, double Whammy. Okay, so their review, this is a long one, but I have to read it all out because I think there’s a lot of meat here for us to dig into. Okay. B Hogan says, other than a reference by a female friend of the mother who says that God doesn’t give folks more burden than they can handle something I think that the survivors of suicide would disagree with, there is no overt preaching I and potential. It is the story of a couple whose firstborn is born without eyes and a crippling leg condition that requires many surgeries that in the end don’t help. It’s a double whammy for this poor kid, however, with a pair of glass eyes inserted where his real ones should have been.

Young Jimmy Bellinger, I think there’s a cross in the actor’s name there, young Jimmy Bellinger has an ear for music which is developed in an inspiring story. He is courageous. He is a courageous and ucky young lad and his parents played by Burgess Jenkins and Trevor Williamson have the right stuff. I certainly was impressed by the story, but if this had not been produced by the fundamentalist American Family Association, we might’ve had a serious discussion on his healthcare coverage. This kid was born with a preexisting condition and the family finances are strayed to the breaking point. Sounds like they could have used universal healthcare coverage, but this film was not about to take the story in that direction. I Potential is a good story decently, if not greatly acted by its unknown cast with the exception of Judge Reinhold who plays the young man’s doctor, sorry, editor’s note. Judge Reinhold is not his doctor. Judge Reinhold is the doctor who runs the marching band. This film was not made. This film not viewed by a fundamentalist church audience raises more questions than it answers.

sar:

How dare she pick out Judge Reinhold to be the standout?

Jeff:

I know, right?

sar:

In a blatantly below mediocre cast, the only person who was cast in Fast Times at Ridgemont High was the only underperformer. I think not,

Jeff:

Yeah, yeah. Also, yeah. But I think this is an interesting point and I’m glad that we got here, which is how there is a part of this story about finances and about the cost of living with a disability, which I actually kind of appreciated. Even if they didn’t dig down super deeply into it in the film,

sar:

It was surface level and even saying surface level is a little bit generous, and I think she’s right. That had a lot to do with the funding authority because I would say maybe not no preaching because a major plot point was his Christian TV performance and he literally wore sweatshirts about Jesus and went to Catholic schools. I guess it’s maybe covert preaching, but I felt pretty preached to in the context of this movie, and I also think that the fact that he is religious, at least in the context of the screenplay, becomes kind of a core tenet of this kid’s personality. He dresses like the kind of Bible banging Christian Mormon, I don’t know. He’s got the performance where he is seen by, we don’t know, they didn’t show a clip of the audience, but they said that the arena held six. It all kind of keeps coming back to that over and over. So then if you’re going to have so much of the film B about how Jesus or God won’t give you loads that you can’t handle A, why is he crawling into the kitchen? B, why does he not go to a school that capitalizes on that instead of where he ends up with this marching band that doesn’t think he can do anything? It didn’t add up for me.

Hollis:

Yeah, no, I would absolutely completely agree with all of those thoughts.

Jeff:

Now, Amazon user, Kate Snell did not agree with some of the praise of this film. They gave it two stars, no title and their review is boring.

sar:

Perfect. Review. Five Star review.

Jeff:

Five star review, two stars. I want to know why they gave it two stars, but only one word.

sar:

It wasn’t worth two words we could have done. Very boring.

Jeff:

Very boring. Sure. Now I’m about to offend every German who listens to this show, and I’m sure there are dozens of you, but letterbox user Nick Un 18 shoots back with a five star view on letterbox stating “So traurig und schön” which apparently translates to “so sad and beautiful.”

sar:

I didn’t think that was terrible German, but Hollis is the one watching dark right now. Hollis?

Hollis:

Das ist gut.

Jeff:

Yes, phenomenal. Unfortunately, the only German I really know are swear words that are not maybe the most appropriate for this moment.

Hollis:

I wouldn’t say it was sad. I would say it’s confusing.

sar:

Yeah.

Jeff:

Yeah. I think that’s fair. I didn’t find it sad really at all, but I also didn’t find it beautiful. Oh God, no.

sar:

No. I think they tried to create some levity and some middle ground and in trying to approach that levity and what is fairly objectively a sad story about a baby born with no Eyes, they kind of overshot it and it became kind of this quirky lifetime film about supposedly sad material that’s supposed to turn good. I don’t know. The tone was off

Hollis:

And I don’t know. I think they really skipped over a lot of potential barriers. Absolutely, and I was absolutely, I only found out it was based on True Story after I watched it and I was like, why? Because I kept on thinking, why is this dad making these decisions?

Jeff:

That is a question that I have had since I’ve watched that film.

Hollis:

Yeah, because just to bring up the idea of financing again, he turned down a major promotion at work that would’ve provided them with plenty of financial resources at home, and also the dad was just way too old and protective of his son.

Jeff:

Yeah. There was a lot of that sort of fragility, like the fragile disabled kid thing going on throughout this film. So those are some of the opinions of it, but I think it’s probably time for us to get a little analytical. Are we ready to unpack the movie I Am Potential,

sar:

Please. It’s a shallow box, but we can do it

Hollis:

Oh no. I’ve got many opinions.

Jeff:

Buckle up friends, because Hollis had more thoughts about this movie than the people who made it.

Our story begins with an aggressive Louisville, Kentucky montage to assure the viewers that we are indeed in Louisville, Kentucky office worker and deeply committed pick up basketball player Patrick John Hughes eagerly awaits the arrival of his first son, who he is sure will be a star football player for the University of Louisville because well, we’re in Louisville. Okay, get it. Spoiler alert. Patrick Henry Hughes will not be a star football player because he’s disabled. The doctors informed the Hughes that their son has a variety of impairments due to a rare condition, including the fact that he has no eyes despite Mama Patrick’s suspicion that the doctors just didn’t notice that their son did in fact have eyes. The doctors are absolutely sure he has no eyes. They checked at least twice and honestly it seems like something that would be kind of tough to miss. The hugs are now confronted with a brutal reality. Their son will require a series of surgeries, may never walk, and will require painful glass eyeballs to be jammed into his bloody eye sockets for the foreseeable future.

This puts an immediate strain on the marriage leaving Papapa to wonder how he will ever manage to be a father while also being a peak performer in casual adult men’s league basketball. Now, before we get into discussion of the first step of this film, I want to note that we get a slightly different origin story from the Extreme Manover Home Edition episode. It’s in this episode that Paul Patrick will explain that he actually quit his day job right away early on in the child’s life working nights instead so that he was able to take care of the baby that has been brought back to their home. We also learned that early in his life he has glass eyes surgically implanted, which also in my opinion perhaps draws into question this weird disclosure around the gross bloody pressing in of the glass eyes. Maybe that conversation happened, maybe it didn’t, but that was not really portrayed on the Extreme Home makeover disclosure of the origin stories of Patrick.

Hollis:

Okay, well, first of all, I think it had a lot of ableism

sar:

Absolutely

Hollis:

In the show itself. Just for one, the idea that he had to have eyes in the first place. It’s like, okay, can you not just leave him as he is or put sunglasses on him or you know what I mean? Or was that a health concern because of it?

Jeff:

Well, so they say in the film that if they don’t put the eyes in that his head won’t form correctly. Apparently that’s the destination of the counter. But

sar:

Counterpoint, Jeff and I did debate that when we watched it. I said, I don’t understand why they need to put something in his head either. He can just have no eyes.

Hollis:

Yeah, I am of the same opinion.

sar:

Yeah, I think if he already can’t walk and he needs several spinal surgeries, having minor facial deformities would be the absolute least of this baby’s problems.

Hollis:

Yeah, exactly. And I have not watched the Extreme makeover. Holman didn’t show, but was he in the movie? He quit his job as an accountant or something like that and he then became a luggage carrier cursing, and so was that an accurate depict or

Jeff:

If you believe Home Makeover? Absolutely not. So we will talk about this in a moment, but in the movie he quit his job when his son is in university in the Home makeover version of the story. He quit his job when Patrick was a baby to take care of him. That was the point. Was it still to become a luggage handler? It’s just said that he works overnight, which you presumably could do if you were a baggage person and that he wasn’t making a lot of money. Sorry, that was the other part of the Home Makeover episode is there is a big part about how Father Patrick Patrick and has a lot of guilt that he hasn’t been able to provide for his family financially as well as he had hoped that he would be able to for his son. I doubt whether or not that’s just a part of the in Extreme Home Makeover, the device of that show that you have to, they’re not going to go in and renovate Kanye’s home,

sar:

But you’ve kind of got two competing devices here. So I’m kind of inclined to believe the truth is somewhere in the middle because I felt the film kind of went overboard in portraying this single income earner. Even if he is an accountant at Warren Buffet’s company, there’s no way he’s making the kind of money where they’re picturing him with the Victorian style multi bedroom home with the huge backyard. He’s got three kids and they’re all in sports. His kid with no eyes has had umpteen surgeries. It just didn’t make sense. The wife says multiple times, she’s not working. This is America. It doesn’t check out. So you’ve got the Tai Pennington take on the one hand where he’s like, oh, they didn’t have two nickels to rub together and they skipped so many surgeries and two of their kids are currently starving and the screenplay take of finances are tough, but we’re still managing to have all of these luxuries that look great on film and I think maybe the truth is they were living lower middle class and kind of scraping by. Would that be accurate?

Jeff:

Potentially, yeah. I mean it should be noted that they are in Kentucky and cost of living is lower in the South depending on where you are. Obviously,

sar:

I imagine access to healthcare is also lower in the South

Jeff:

Depending on where you are. Again, they’re in Louisville and University cities tend to have better access because often there’s hospitals associated with university. But yeah, so there is a lot of focus though at the first third of the movie really is this expose of all of its medical problems. That’s really the main focus of the first bit of the film. Now you might be wondering, well, how long do they spend on this? It’s about 10 minutes. It feels like three hours.

sar:

It’s excruciating for sure.

Jeff:

It’s just on and on and on. So let’s move forward then in our story because that’s kind of boring.

sar:

Patrick was six months old in this film for almost half the film

Jeff:

And then immediately jumps forward to university. So life at home is almost immediately rocky for the Hughes family. Papa Patrick is working long hours doing some sort of office work, something to do with computers and PowerPoint slides, maybe a calculator.

sar:

I think Holli is right. It gave the vibe of accountant.

Jeff:

Something? Yes, and he’s working even longer hours at his pickup basketball league, often leaving his wife Patricia to feel as though she is fully responsible for raising the profound disabled child. I’m not joking. He routine and comes home at the start of the film and is like, babe, and you assume that this is high stakes. He’s on his way to the NBA. No, it is a Jersey list, pickup league. They don’t have jerseys.

sar:

Jeff. He’s point guard. He’s the backbone of the team. Disabled son or not.

Jeff:

You have to be there for the boys.

Hollis:

They spent more time focusing in on his beer league basketball than they did on his son’s education.

sar:

Absolutely. Yeah. The beer league basketball was a solid B plot of this film and unsurprisingly it went nowhere. There was no development whatsoever.

Jeff:

I really hope that this was the director that Zach had heard these stories like I’m imagining he interviewed the mom and the dad separately and the dad was like, I was at work and it was busy and I was playing sports and stuff, and then the mom was just like, he would not stop it with the basketball. He would not stop talking about it. He would not stop playing it. I am just trying to survive and he’s playing this minute and so I’m wondering if he was like, what if the film also inappropriately focused on basketball Papa? No reason Patrick plays five days a week every night he was in there grinding. I guess that’s

sar:

Okay. Alternate take what if, and this goes back to a conversation that we were having earlier and is definitely giving the film too much credit. What if they meant to have that as an intentional juxtaposition? Because so much of the dad’s character is, oh, my firstborn son is never going to be an Olympic athlete, and he’s trying to live that dream up until the point where he kind of has that not so triumphant throw of the basketball against his office net. And he goes like, okay, forget it. Sports is over. It’s all music for me now. But it lines up in the context of the screenplay that so much of his acting time is him playing the sports and dealing with his grief through sports and dealing with the collapse of his marriage, which doesn’t actually collapse through sports and only when he releases two the music gods. So therapy could have helped here. Does he give up the five days a week pickup basketball? So maybe it was a point about the characterization of the dad and it just doesn’t translate. You really have to sit here and think about this. Yeah,

Jeff:

I think it was one of those situations where it was so aggressive in your face that then you started to wonder why that you started to think, well, maybe this is leading somewhere else. It can’t be that straightforward. It can’t just be a motif if they’re constantly going back to this basketball game and then it

sar:

And then it was…just a motif.

Jeff:

It is just a motif.

sar:

You were hood winged to the entire time. Pick up basketball just like in real life is going nowhere.

Jeff:

It will end and it ends because mama Patricia puts her foot down and she forces Papa Patrick to become an actual father, to miss basketball for once in his life and to stay home and take care of his son. During this time, Patrick Clearance that his son is actually kind of cool, although he takes the nasty poops and his animal nature appears to be soothed by the dulcet notes of the piano. We then jumped forward an indeterminate amount of time with Patrick now and grown child who has navigated the world with a manual wheelchair and is RACA in the piano hard. Patrick also has two new brothers, one of which we knew was coming, one of which magically appeared, and the only thing we ever learned about them is that one runs fast and did the other live video games. Patrick’s musical talents are immediately put to the test when he was invited in front of a live studio audience to perform his song, the Crusade Canon Ball during a televised edition of the 40th annual WHAS Crusade for Children Peon. Okay, so I want to come back to a question that Sarah asked earlier, which is when do you think this movie was set?

sar:

It was really difficult to determine, honestly.

Jeff:

Do you have a guess? Hollis? Do you have a guess? When do you think this movie was set?

Hollis:

Man judging by his dream car. I would say early nineties.

sar:

Yeah, that was going to be my guess. Set design looked very heavily nineties inspired. That was definitely the kind of lower class income home I grew up in.

Jeff:

Right. Yep. Okay. Early nineties. Okay, buckle up. Buckle up. Despite the broadcast looking like it was filmed in the 1960s with people from the 1990s, this Crusade for Children telethon actually happened on June 4th, 2005. A decade later.

sar:

Okay.

Hollis:

What??

Jeff:

Yeah. It would raise over $5 million and gave grants to 148 agencies in the Kentucky and Indiana areas

Hollis:

Sorry for my ‘wow’d surprise there.

sar:

That’s amazing. So the SP actually is not anachronistic. The SP is totally accurate and it’s just filmed ridiculously.

Jeff:

Yes. Now, I also wanted to share this because I read this and I’m not ashamed to admit I almost peed myself. Okay. This is a quote from the WHAS website about this year’s telethon

sar:

You dug deep for this.

Jeff:

I always do. I can’t stopped. Okay. And I quote “for the first time in recent memory there was a standin room only crowd on hand for the free kickoff variety show at the Kentucky Center’s Bombard Theater. Many think that it was because of the talented trio who returned to their hometown to headline the show, Lance Burton, max Finn and Marty Polio. Others speculated it was because of the free glowing star necklaces that was given to everyone in attendance.”

sar:

I would a hundred percent go to a concert if they were giving me a glowing star necklace. I would go see bands I actively hate to get that.

Jeff:

I love just this complete the dichotomy of it’s like either it was because of the hometown heroes or it was the free giveaway.

sar:

We’re not sure. It was definitely the giveaway. Sorry, Marty Polio.

Jeff:

Marty Polio will never recover from this.

sar:

Sorry man, you’re not a pull.

Jeff:

Yeah, they raised a lot of money. I will say it wasn’t the most that they’ve raised. It was actually a bit of a downed year old, but it was a lot of money and it was, as I said, the first time in recent memory that there was a standing room only in crowd. So it was a pretty big deal. 2005, not 1991.

sar:

Contrast that with the cinematography where I kept making fun during that scene. They would never give us a wide shot of the audience. They just showed us two or three audience members at a time and I was like, they’re not going to do it. They’re not going to give me the wide shot. And they never did. So we actually come out of the film not knowing if this event was even attended. He just did it

Hollis:

Unless the only reason, and I highly doubt that the screenplay was this…?

sar:

Savvy?

Hollis:

Creativity is that it might have been in order to exemplify his experience of it as he was never seeing the crowd. He was only hearing the crowd.

Jeff:

I got you just say that in the script, right? They’re like, is that how many people are there? And he is like, just imagine that they’re on their underwear and he is like, what does that look like? Yeah,

sar:

That says some dipshit comment about picturing them and we’re like, dad, the entire movie is about me not having is.

Jeff:

Yeah, that’s sort of the point here. I think that’s probably, that might be what the director writer says. I think that’s what Zach might say if you ask them. I think probably the real answer is they couldn’t afford that many extras. They afford that many people in a building for one shot. So they scrap it.

sar:

You know what they should have done? They should have done a giveaway.

Jeff:

If they had had some necklaces, some star necklaces,

sar:

I would get some butts in seats.

Jeff:

Come on, bro. Now, I was actually really interested to see the Crusade for Children mentioned in this film because of course the Crusade for Children actually plays a fairly significant role in disability history. It was a major part of the charity world that we understand today. Not specifically the WHAS, but this broader Crusade for Children thing was a big deal in say, Britain. And some scholars would point back to these types of activities as really playing that formative role in how we understand disabled people through things like the telethon. And so I thought this is actually an interesting little piece of disability history that was included in this hall. Do you want to opine for us on telethons and charity and disability?

Hollis:

Honestly have never been my stitch and having muscular dystrophy, I have been told so much about that American muscular dystrophy telethon and how many people are so dedicated to that thing and me saying, yeah, that’s not, I don’t know. I really didn’t identify, I never identified with any kind of telephone

sar:

Context question. If we’re talking about classic mid eighties, early nineties telethons, that kind of predates my TV watching by quite a bit. Would that be kind of like the two thousands live aid? Is that the spectrum of comparison here? No,

Jeff:

No. Nowhere near

sar:

No. Bigger?

Jeff:

No. So I can actually directly speak to this because I was on the Muscular Dystrophy Telethon.

sar:

Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

Jeff:

I was the first national campaign assistant for MTC, which is the Canadian version that runs the thing that Jerry Lewis was running in the States. And so I was actually on the early nineties versions of the Canadian Telethon.

sar:

Oh yeah, dude.

Jeff:

Which would have satellite pieces from the Jerry Lewis that was brought in. So it really was a variety show. So the idea was bring in a bunch of celebrities of some variety that would be sort of mid-tier celebrities. So in modern day, you’re not getting Chapel Rowan in, but you might be getting in some 41 people that were big at one point but aren’t big at all anymore. But the studio audience is not big. When we were doing it in Toronto, when I was there in the early nineties, there would’ve been maybe 50 people in the studio audience.

sar:

Oh wow.

Jeff:

But the objective was make cheap television and have people call in donations. That’s the name of the game. And so you get a lot of local flare as well. So you’d get Fear is a local kid who’s really good at Hula hoop or Fear is a local savant musician that everyone knows in Toronto for whatever reason. So it’d be sort of that type of thing. And then celebrities were people like Kurt Browning or Doug Gilmore who was at the center for the Maple Leafs at the time. It was kind of that sort of vibe and they would just run these things and you’d be told to call in. So really the better comparison is not live aid, it’s the PBS telethons. Those like call-a-thons that PBS dide

sar:

I forgot that.

Jeff:

That’s the vibe. That’s the vibe that would…

sar:

PBS telethon because of viewers like you.

Jeff:

Precisely. You fill in and you might get to be on TV when you call and donate. That was sort of the schtick.

sar:

So the point is not really the actual shtick that’s happening on screen. It’s going viral in today’s terms. The point was to produce viral content

Jeff:

Parade a bunch of people’s eyes so that they phone in and donate.

Hollis:

Exactly. Interesting.

Jeff:

And so in Canada, we did it different in the States. So in Canada it was largely about entertainment that we were trying to entertain people. I was trying to entertain people. I did it for the art.

Hollis:

Well, I don’t think you’re trying to entertain people. You entertain people, period.

sar:

And he still does to this day.

Jeff:

Yeah, thank you. Thank you.

sar:

Hell yeah. Hollis.

Jeff:

Yeah, Hollis coming up big. I’ll pay you later. In the States, they also entertained, but I think a lot more life, the Crusade for Children, the entertainment as has been written by authors like, okay, Longow in the lovely book telethon, the telethon was all about the Pity parade.

sar:

Right.

Jeff:

It was about rolling out sort of sad, pathetic, disabled people and saying, imagine if this was you, are you sad? Donate. And so Paul k Longmore referred to it as basically a annual Tiny Tim event in which the viewer is Scrooge and they have to decide whether or not they will part with their pennies and help the Crotchet family, these disabled people on tv, or are they going to be greedy and hold onto their pennies.

sar:

This is actually the format that Sarah McLaughlin perfected, right?

Jeff:

Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. She was making the soundtrack for this stuff.

sar:

Yeah,

Jeff:

Right. Yeah. And so this is really what’s going on here. And so what I find for the interesting about this is that this moment is shown as the coming out party in a lot of ways for Patrick Hughes to play his song and to vet the charity that has helped him and his family presumably. But what’s actually going on in this telethon, I don’t want to say it’s more sinister, but it’s certainly a lot more about the pity and the inspiration porn as we would call it now, or actually kind of did then. This is 2005. It’s not that long ago that when this was happening. Yeah.

sar:

Okay. So would you say based on the information you have, so Courteously given me, that kind of puts the film itself as written in this kind of super positional role as yet another telethon. It’s a movie about how he went on the telethon and then went on to become some minor student in a college marching band. But the writing and the cinematography and the positioning of the narrative kind of creates another telethon because the point wasn’t the story. It was what you do after the story. How bad do you feel right now? So I got Sarah McLaughlin yet again.

Hollis:

I would completely agree.

sar:

Interesting. So if you position this movie as a telethon, I actually think the movie’s a lot more interesting. I think if you take it at face value, it is a boring piece of garbage. If you super position it to, this was a 1.5 hour attempt to get you to Google conditions like this and donate money. This is kind of an interesting marketing strategy.

Jeff:

No. So I think that theory is dead on. I think that’s what this is trying to do. I think that’s what this movie is trying to do. It’s translating the telethon experience into a 90 minute film. Now, I want to put an important editor’s note here, which is that it is possible that the Handball crusade happened at a much earlier date. It may actually have been in the nineties because the performance of the Canal Crusade may have happened on an earlier date. But the 2005 is the date that’s listed on the WHAS as in performant. However, if you’ve done the math, you will notice that this is actually the year before he will attend the University of Louisville. What the movie doesn’t include is a variety of other performances that, in my opinion, are actually a lot more interesting. For instance, he attended and performed a song, amazing Children on an episode of Maury Povich in 1990. He also performed numerous times at the Grand Old Opry. He also performed, yeah, if you go to his website, he has been performing all over the place at some of the biggest stages, even before he arrives on Instream Home Makeover. I’m curious why then they focused in on the Children’s Crusade and not any of these other big things that he was doing. And the answer perhaps is exactly what you just said, Sarah.

sar:

Well, I think funding is also a big one. I think it’s a combination of the telethon and the fact that a clearly Christian organization has purchased the rights to this film.

Jeff:

Sure, fair enough.

sar:

I don’t think they’re going to show his performance on Maury Povich, however, I would’ve loved that cut.

Jeff:

I’m assuming that it ends with someone throwing a chair at him, right?

sar:

Yeah. I think the movie would be a lot more interesting had they gone with the Maury Povich cut. But to get the funding they had to do the Christian summer camp

Hollis:

Or having Maury Povich tell him, you are not the father. He is not the father. So good.

Jeff:

Oh, it’s a super different movie. If you go down that rabbit hole,

Hollis:

See, if Papa Patrick was told that he is not the father, he would’ve been like, I’m out. I’m focusing on Beer League.

Jeff:

I’m going back to basketball.

sar:

That would’ve led to the divorce. It all comes full circle.

Jeff:

It all comes together. Yeah, it all comes together. Divorce, not because of disability, but because of infidelity,

sar:

Maury Povich…

Jeff:

Maury Povich.

Jeff:

And thus concludes another episode of Invalid Culture. Thank you for listening. I hope you enjoyed it or not. Either way, please take a second. If you haven’t to subscribe to our podcast on whatever platform you’re using, tell a friend, and better yet, do you want to be a victim on the podcast? Go onto our website, invalid culture.com, submit your name. We would love to terrorize you with a bad movie. Have a bad movie of your own that you think that we should watch. Again, jump on our website, culture.com, submit it, and we would love to watch the trash. Be sure to tune in again next week for part two where we will start to dig into the movie and find out whether or not it wins. The coveted Jerry Lewis seal of approval.

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Transcript – Part 2

[A clip from the film plays to start the podcast]
Doctor:
We discovered some anomalies. What do you mean anomalies? Patrick Henry was born with a rare condition. It’s called bilateral an ophthalmia. He was born without eyes. I mean there must be some kind. The ultrasound said that he was healthy. I’m sorry, it’s easily missed. I’m afraid there’s more.
[Intro theme song, “Arguing with Strangers on the Internet” by Mvll Crimes plays]
Jeff:
You are listening to Invalid Culture, a podcast dedicated to excavating the strangest and most baffling media representations of disability. This podcast is all about staring into the abyss of pop culture adjacent films that never quite broke through because well, they’re just awful. So buckle up folks. The following content is rated I for invalid.
Jeff:
Welcome back to another episode of Invalid Culture, part two of I Am Potential. As always, I am your host, Jeff Preston, and I’m here again with Sarah Curry, co-host and our special guest victim Hollis. Alright, let’s get right to it. Okay, so let’s flash forward. Fat Trick has now grown up and I want to note that we literally do flash forward. This movie has a series of blackout jump cuts in which suddenly people are just older and we are expected to understand that. So Patrick has grown up and despite a few surgical and swim related setbacks has now entered high school. He has developed a new musical passion in part because of his swing related injury. The trumpet and marching bands, things are still tough for the hues though as Papa Patrick is being absolutely ridden at work by his boss, who is never satisfied and he even will have to sell his beloved car to help pay for Patrick’s escalated medical bills. As Patrick moves toward graduation from high school with his new best friend Bryce, he has set his eyes on a noom goal,
Got him joining the University of Louisville marching band Patch is accepted to the U of L to study something who knows, doesn’t matter, but he is confronted with a bigger problem marching band leader Dr. Greg Byrne, who I assume has a PhD in PET and a postdoc in funk is worried about the manual wheelchair moving around the field and thinks that it just might not be possible. Luckily, after some modifications to his chair, which basically consists of putting bigger tires on the front, that problem is resolved. But who will push him around the field when he plays? Obviously it’s his high school friend Bryce, right? Of course not. Papa Patrick has a crisis of faith in corporate capitalism. He quits his job despite being offered a full control of the company as the next regional manager, CEO, unclear, and he will take up a night job working as a baggage handler at the local airport and goes full time on the marching band. Our film eventually concludes with the father and son duo achieving their dream, taking the field at Allan Federal Credit Union Stadium and playing at the University of Illinois football game and the movie is over. Praise be.
sar:
I think I said when we were watching it that the movie could have honestly started when he was in high school. We learned precious little from the first 45 minutes of the film, we learned that he is disabled. His parents are kind of sad about it. His dad really fucking loves basketball, and that’s about it. That’s half the film’s runtime,
Jeff:
And Patrick appears to have had a wildly more interesting life in the late nineties and early two thousands that could have been great cover for this film.
Hollis:
I’m very happy that we’re getting into this part of the film because these are what my major thoughts are is that this film would’ve been so much better had they had more than two scenes of him in high school.
sar:
Yeah,
Hollis:
Fair.
sar:
It’s true.
Hollis:
Because day one, he gets there and the popular kid is making fun of him. Day two, him and the popular kid are best friends and they’re running around the hallway and then suddenly he turns the corner falls out of his chair and suddenly Papa Patrick is so over their jet of him that he decides no one else will ever push my son around. Excuse my language, put a fucking seatbelt on the guy, right? Yeah. And put it by your seatbelt on a guy. Take the job promotion, have the opportunity to pay for a full-time attendant and provide for your family.
Jeff:
Yeah, it is a baffling turn in the story, which makes a lot more sense in the context of it probably didn’t happen this way.
sar:
Yeah, I seriously doubt it. I don’t think this guy quit his job to be a pusher in a varsity marching band
Jeff:
Unless this is actually the dream. If he had two dreams, either football star or musician star, and the musician one really did pan out, maybe people have done less to become a stage mom. Right?
Hollis:
Yeah.
sar:
I could not understand, and this is going off Hollis’s earlier point, why they introduced Bryce only to have him play a totally non-committal role as an occasional audience member. I thought that they were introducing Bryce to be kind of his principal assistant in this varsity marching band,
Jeff:
And I’m so glad you brought that up, Sarah, because I think I might actually have an answer to that question.
sar:
Excellent.
Jeff:
Now, in the Extreme Makeover Home edition episode, Patrick Henry often refers to his blindness as an ability that it provides him with different kinds of sight, and one of those types of sight he explains is that he does not see race literally and therefore does not discriminate. He says, those as in race have no meaning to me whatsoever. I just see what’s within a person. So I don’t want to say that Patrick was the first, I don’t see race, but also he literally doesn’t see race.
sar:
Yeah. He’s actually innovating in this argument.
Jeff:
A little bit perhaps? But it also maybe glosses over a little bit what race is as three white people are about to enter into a conversation on race and what it means. So this should be great and not at all.
sar:
Totally inappropriate.
Jeff:
That is why I fully believe this is why that is in there is because this is a thing that Patrick Henry has been saying. He said it on the actually blank over home edition. I’m guessing it’s something that he’s been brought up in other contexts, whether it’s interviews or what have you…
Hollis:
They do briefly mention it in high school as in the cafeteria. The friend was like, oh, so you only see black? And then he says, I don’t know what black is.
Jeff:
Right, exactly. And so I think that’s literally the reason that this was placed today. I think that might be the only reason that Bryce is there was for them to play this heartwarming turn of phrase that he doesn’t see race.
sar:
Well, I mean the whole film is disappointing, but it’s kind of a disappointing addition in what is already a disappointing film because, and I’m sorry Patrick, if you ever hear this, the kind of foe enlightenment around, oh, I call my disabilities abilities and Special Olympics and I don’t see race or see color. It’s something we teach children, and then as you develop context and history and basic intersectionality, you come to the realization that, okay, there are some very legitimate things that get in the way of some people having more and less than others. So if you want to be a truly compassionate person, you can’t get on the telephone telephone, not telephone both and say, I don’t see rays, but all black people are the same, all disablement is the same. It doesn’t work, but it works in the context of this telethon. For the same reason that Sarah McLaughlin holding up puppies with two broken legs and says, give me money or adopt. It works in that you’re kind of glossing over the moral incongruity there to get to the money,
Jeff:
Right? Yeah. It flattens it, right? It flattens everything down, which I know is the thing that happens when it’s a 90 minute film, things get flattened in the process of 90 minutes.
sar:
I’m not sure his entire moral outlook should have been flattened for a 90 minute film about him as a person, but otherwise I concur.
Jeff:
Yeah. What other the thoughts did you have about the school system, Hollis?
Hollis:
Some of it was very relatable, other parts of it or that is not…No, no. The fact that high school was enjoyable to him as a disabled student was baffling to me because there’s no way he, he did not ever experience any kind of bullying. That cafeteria scene I thought was about to jump into a series of bullying that he experienced in high school, but then the next scene, they were best friends somehow that it didn’t really skip, it didn’t transition.
sar:
Yeah. I got the sense, and Jeff can correct me if he got a different sense that the movie was trying pretty hard not to disparage the very living person, Patrick. So if there were too many scenes dedicated to embarrassing parts of his persona or episodes of his life, he would rather not relive. There’s this ya trope where a bunch of the characters become fast friends by way of these canny insults toward one another that then get executed in real life a lot more messily and less successfully than they do in stuff like Fault in our stars. And I think they were kind of drawing on that narrative in my mind to try to make him and what’s it, Bryce Fast friends. I don’t think he actually had a stunning quip in the moment of his bullying, but for the movie he did, and I think it’s because it’s servicing the narrative and the telethon of cult of personality of Mini Patrick.
Jeff:
Yeah. Well, yeah. I think that this is all about the notion of his charisma is enough to win over anybody, even a staunchest critic, a bully in high school,
sar:
Yeah. And we’ve all been to high school, that doesn’t work.
Jeff:
I won over none of my bullies. My stunning charisma was useless in the face of bullying.
Hollis:
Exactly.
Jeff:
Yeah. But it is interesting, this notion, and this is perhaps where unintentionally the film is maybe a bit religious in that Patrick does have this sort of messianic nature about him being risen up and a moral paragon. He works hard, he’s dedicated to what he does. There are no half measures here. He wins over people, he finds solutions, he inspires people. But this is exactly what Bill Peace, I think would describe as the good cripple that he’s performing the proper way to be a disabled boy at this time, sort of turn of the century millennial babies.
sar:
Yeah. I don’t even think he tosses out an insult now that I think about it. Right. He doesn’t even do that.
Jeff:
No, he doesn’t. Which it could have been interesting. Like you said, if this movie started with him entering high school, you could’ve actually gotten into some of this messy stuff. I mean, the race politics of Louisville is going to be far more complicated than it was addressed in this film. I would imagine. It’s true. I’m not from Louisville, but I would imagine in Kentucky there’s some fun stuff going on in this.
sar:
I want to know Patrick’s arc of telling other high school kids, 15, 16 year olds, I don’t see rice. I wanted to see that play out on screen. I
Hollis:
Know. Yeah. Again, it had so much potential.
sar:
So much potential, Hollis.
Jeff:
Yeah, Yeah.
Hollis:
Yeah.
Jeff:
So I think this actually brings us, I’m sorry, but we should probably talk about the fact that this movie does fall into a couple interesting tropes, and I think the one really interesting trope that we should talk about is the trope of making a biopic about a disabled person that accidentally is about the non-disabled person. I would argue this movie is about the dad, it’s not about Patrick.
Hollis:
Yeah, I would completely agree with you with that. I almost said without hypnosis.
Jeff:
Yes. Yeah. The medium is the message as we all know. Yeah. The other one that I wanted to talk a little bit about is what I call the pain parade. This is the desire, the urgent need to talk constantly about surgeries, injuries, rehab, struggle. We actually don’t know a lot about Patrick. I know lots of other surgeries, but I don’t know really anything else about him other than he likes music and he’s had a rough go with his body.
sar:
We don’t even really see the struggle. The struggle of this film was him trying to make band and for whatever reason, there’s a whole five minute scene dedicated to the head of this marching band saying, well, no, you can’t join because half of the premise here is March this Ken does march. He really could not let that go.
Hollis:
Yeah.
sar:
There’s a cool ableism point to be made there about how do we envision accommodations. But I think it was actually a much simpler point about this is one of the biggest hardships in this guy’s life with some fairly well off parents, and the only real hardship we’re getting in the context of the screenplay is him crawling to the kitchen inexplicably, still looking for an explanation on that. They had a ramp,
Jeff:
I will say that is actually accurate to their world. So this ramp crawling scene is also a part of the Extreme Makeover episode. Wild. This is one of the issues. There is a ramp to get into their kitchen that he is unable to push himself up. It’s too steep for him to push up. So he has to get out of his chair, crawl up, and reel it in.
sar:
Gotcha.
Jeff:
I will say that I do not understand
Hollis:
Use a power chair?
Jeff:
They did not make the ramp longer to make the slope less. There was room, you can see in both the film there was tons of room makeover. There is room for them to extend that rant if that was the real problem.
sar:
And they did two different of it. So they really wanted to hone in on this trouble getting to the kitchen thing. And I don’t know if they were just at a complete loss for other troubles to give this kid, but it really felt truly bizarre.
Jeff:
My theory is this is the She makeover viral effect, but it was lose bit afterwards and that scene I did was particularly evocative to audiences of that show.
sar:
That’s what got Ty Pennington on the phone. He was like, that’s it.
Jeff:
He’s like, not, can’t even get into the kitchen. Invite America. You can get into the kitchen when you can tell your mom know what to make to you. So that might be it, but it’s wild. This movie spends a ton of time about how hard it is, how painful it is, but as our reviewer earlier explains, there really isn’t a whole lot of real deep engagement with there has to be a better way. What if there was funding?
sar:
Well, they don’t even show it, which I think might’ve also increased the narrative intrigue had they shown him in pain or him recovering after a surgery or not to make it more pain parade, but all of the dialogue kind of felt like an after effects add in where they’ll change the color of your eyes after the fact. They just had these script throw ins like, oh, he had seven surgeries this year and he’s just sitting there playing the trumpet and I’m like, I don’t think he had seven surgeries this year. What the fuck?
Hollis:
There’s no way he’s playing trumpet after seven fucking surgeries.
Jeff:
Yeah. So he has a spinal cord surgery for scoliosis. I also had that surgery. Hollis also had that surgery.
sar:
Holy hell.
Jeff:
After the surgery, were you sitting up in a bed talking to people?
Hollis:
Fuck no.
sar:
Were you playing the trumpet?
Hollis:
I was half conscious.
Jeff:
Yeah. I was not conscious for three days after the surgery.
sar:
Yeah, yeah. So you’re telling me the stage show is untrue.
Jeff:
They lied to you, Sarah.
sar:
Unbelievable.
Hollis:
I honestly, I barely remember coming out of that surgery.
Jeff:
No, not at all.
Hollis:
Yeah,
sar:
You didn’t go to AP bio the next day.
Hollis:
Oh yeah. And I remember basically I remember that surgery is the pain when they were removing 18 staples.
Jeff:
Yep. Yeah. I was about six months in recovery where I was basically on my back. I was on the couch taking a lot of codeine and falling in love with Rosie O’Donnell.
sar:
Nice.
Jeff:
And then the codeine went away and I suddenly didn’t like Rosie O’Donnell. So funny how that works. Surely there’s no connection.
sar:
No.
Jeff:
The other one, obviously this is what we probably don’t need to talk about, but with loss comes a special gift in this case because he doesn’t have eyes. He has music and apparently anti-racism.
sar:
It kind of just felt like, and I don’t even know if I can blame the film for this because I’m sure this church or organization wasn’t made of money, but it felt like the no-frills version of every trope we had the inspiration porn, we had the Pan Olympics, we had him having unconscionable troubles, we had his entire life story, all the hits, but it was all done badly and totally unmoving. And even when I’m saying it’s hard to talk about, I wanted to see more of the pain while still saying, I don’t want to see only pain because I’m just not buying the version you’re giving me. The version you’re giving me is so no frills as for me to not believe the entire telethon you needed to commit to one or two of these tropes instead of doing 10 or 12 of ’em in the explain like I’m five budget version.
Jeff:
Yeah, absolutely.
sar:
Does that make sense?
Jeff:
No, absolutely. Absolutely.
sar:
It just ended up, I felt like I wasn’t understanding the plot and then I’m looking it up and I’m like, no, that was the plot. That’s what they were trying to get across. I just don’t get it.
Jeff:
Now, listeners of the show will know that we have a fully empirical, completely scientific and rigorous method in which we rate all of our films titled The Invalid Culture Scale, which we will put this movie to the test to determine where it falls on our scale, whether or not it maybe is actually art or if it will win the coveted Jerry Lewis seal of approval. So on a scale of one to five, with five being the least accurate, how accurate does this film portray disability?
Hollis:
I want to say four. Four and a half. Four and a half.
sar:
Four and a half.
Hollis:
Because yes, he does have a lot of surgeries as a kid with his fairly relatable because he goes for scoliosis, he brace his leg and a number other surgeries for his disorder and he has, the one thing that I found even more relatable was the fact that he had an EA sitting beside him in every class in high school.
Jeff:
That doesn’t happen.
sar:
Maybe it does in Louisville. Maybe they have unprecedented funding.
Hollis:
It happened for me. I don’t know about you.
Jeff:
Definitely not for me. I was allowed one third of an attendant.
Hollis:
Really?
Jeff:
They chopped that guy up. Yes.
Hollis:
Yes. Oh, maybe it’s a London rule.
Jeff:
I was in London, I was in a different town, but I had one third of an attendant, damnit Hollis.
sar:
So we are 1-to-1 again. It’s interesting to me that you guys have a lot of the same disablement as what’s being depicted here and oftentimes in the context of this episode, very opposite experiences of it, which is fun for me as a third party observer because now I believe nothing. Yeah,
Jeff:
Yea it’s all made up basically “Disability is, whose line is line is it anyway? It’s all random. It’s all made up.
sar:
Yeah. We’re all just atoms floating in the universe and how much help you receive is just completely random,
Jeff:
Totally arbitrary. Depends on how good you are at piano.
sar:
So I’m not as helpful for this film because Jeff keeps picking physical disability films and I’m a mental disability expert, so color me useless, but I’m going to go with three.
Hollis:
Jeff was being selfish in his choices.
sar:
Yeah, Jeff is being real selfish with the film selection right now.
Jeff:
So, Two points. There’re just all disabled physically, always one heavy content in that side and yeah, that’s why. And they’re mostly men. That’s the other fun thing. It’s so cool.
sar:
They’re mostly men. Perfect. Alright. I went with three and I went with three because of the conversation we were having toward the end about, I felt like they were doing a lot of typical disability on film devices, but in not committing to any of them. And I wonder how much of this is because or if they consulted with the family on the screenplay and I think that would change my answer if they had writing credit on the screenplay, but if they didn’t, the depiction is so flimsy in all of the trope making that none of them get pulled off. If they made kind of a builder basic inspiration porn film like the Hill, I would’ve actually given it a lower score, lower being better because it at least committed to the inspiration for an angle. This film didn’t even do that.
Jeff:
I’m pretty much right in the middle. I gave it a four. I was going to say it might be accurate to Patrick Henry’s life. I actually don’t think that that’s necessarily the case, but I also think that it’s not super accurate in terms of what life with disability is like. There’s all the highlights. They have all the buzzwords, the things that you have probably heard if you talk to a disabled person for a few minutes around concerns around access, concerns around bills, concerns around surgeries. They’ve got all the elements there, but it’s all just so glossed, just completely glossed over. And there’s really no attempt to engage critically with what this means, with what it means that his family isn’t able to afford healthcare, what it means that he’s working his way through element or through high school and then eventually goes on into university. I think there’s the major focus on these high level points in a biography as opposed to the real things that make a human. I’m going to give it a four. On a scale of one to five, with five being the hardest, how hard was it for you to get through this film?
Hollis:
I’m going to say four because I did not watch it on, I watched it on YouTube premium so I didn’t have two miracles.
sar:
Oh hell yeah.
Hollis:
So that’s why it was shorter, so it was easier to get through. That’s why I gave it the four out of five and not vital.
sar:
You saw the YouTube cut?
Hollis:
Yeah.
sar:
Maybe we should have watched that.
Jeff:
We boned that one. Sorry folks.
sar:
I did find this harder to get through than a lot of the more entertaining I see films, so I’m going to agree with Hollis on four. I think part of the value of it, if you go to watch it, which you shouldn’t, is it really is kind of like a K-pop drama slice of life where you really do get the kind of me entering day-to-day style. And if that’s genuinely your thing, I think you might actually enjoy this film, but it’s not my thing at all. I’m not big on slice of life, so I found it quite difficult combined with the obvious screenplay problems.
Jeff:
So I’m the outlier on this one. I gave it a 2.5. This is by no means the worst that I’ve ever had to sit through. It wasn’t terrible filmmaking. I mean it wasn’t great filmmaking, but by the context of this podcast, this was not the worst thing I’ve had to sit through. I remember it ending and not feeling like I had ruined my life. Absolutely. And that to me feels like I wasn’t exhausted afterwards. And this might be tip of my hand a little bit, but also my answer to the next question also kind of explains why I gave this a 2.5. So the next question is on a scale of one to five, with five being the maximum, how often did you laugh at things that were not supposed to be funny?
Hollis:
I’d say three and a half.
sar:
Okay.
Hollis:
I found the idea. Think the thing that I laugh most actually out loud about was how it seemed like a good idea for him to quit his job and become a baggage handler that would’ve paid him maybe a fifth of the salary that he was already earning and then maybe a 10th of the salary that he could have taken.
sar:
I’m going to go high. I’m going to give it a four because I was laughing throughout this movie and some of it might’ve been the margaritas, but at least some of it was outright ridiculous scene composition. You had the theater with him playing and his dad telling him just picture the audience naked or with just their underwear on and he turns around like, dad, I’ve had no eyes my whole life type of thing. Or when the parents come home and there’s, I kid you not, there’s a two or three minute scene that Jeff touched on where the parents are arguing over whether the baby was or was not born with eyes. And Jeff and I were joking. I feel like as a nurse that would be fairly easy to identify on a scale of difficult disorders, checking the eyelid and seeing if there’s anything in it. They’re going to be pretty sure. And there’s just ridiculous moments like that throughout the film. So I was laughing quite a bit, but I don’t think the screenplay was trying to make that funny. I think they were trying to make increasingly dramatic moments and the tonal shift was such that anything that might otherwise have translated as kind of a dramatic lilt instead translated as absurdity.
Jeff:
Yep. I was right there with you. I went higher. I gave it a five. This was objectively a really funny that I don’t think it was intended to be as funny as it was. I laughed at all the things you were mentioning, the Are you sure he doesn’t have eyes? Hilarious. I have to play basketball all the time. Hilarious. I have to sell my car. Hilarious grandpa trying to kill his grandchild. Hilarious. It was all hilarious. I thought it was really, really funny. It was not intended to be. I’m a terrible person and I’m okay with that. And that is why I found it a very watchable film because it was really funny when you really think about it. Yeah. Okay.
sar:
I think it’s not, when you think about it, it’s when you totally release your mind. You choose to think nothing and just let the film wash over you.
Jeff:
Just let it smash against you.
sar:
Like the tide coming in at the end of the day.
Jeff:
Yeah. Rolling up the ramp just to get a glass of water. Okay, scale of one to five, our last question, my favorite one with five being the most, how many steps back has this film put disabled people?
Hollis:
Five being the highest?
sar:
Yes.
Hollis:
A million.
sar:
A million.
Jeff:
So that’s a five. We’re go with a five.
Hollis:
Yeah. We’re going with five. It does not picture the life of a disabled person accurately at all. And it focuses on the woe is me Life of the father way too much.
sar:
When I put it in the context of the other films we’ve watched this year, I think stuff like I can never say it, quid pro quo actually does far more dangerous things for disablement and popular culture than something like this film, which was just kind of a poorly edited, attempted inspiration porn. I think if you’re doing poorly edited, attempted inspiration porn, there is enough of that entrenched in North American society that people pretty much know what to make of it at face value. This isn’t a film that I would give to somebody with a whole bunch of notes about what movements that it’s drawing on unlike some of the other films in Jeff’s because it’s just so bafflingly simplistic and it doesn’t try to achieve anything other than its telethon narrative value. And if that’s all they were going for sure, I respect that. If what you really wanted to do was tell an inspirational quasi story to raise a bunch more money, that’s great.
But I don’t think that’s as damaging to disability culture than films that actively promote disinformation or really harmful opinions about culture. Not that inspiration porn isn’t a harmful opinion, but I’m kind of counting on when I meet a stranger. But that’s an opinion that we’re working on changing. Whereas the Republican fantasy epic was rapidly more dangerous than a film this, you’d have to host a showing after that, showing to discuss the problems with that showing. And I don’t feel that you’d have to do that with this film. You’d just get up on stage and be like, well, that sure was an attempt, right? And everybody would kind of already know what you’re saying. Does that make sense?
Jeff:
Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I really struggled with this. I’ve changed my score on this multiple times since I saw it. I have oscillated between two and five for days, months even. And I think I’m going to go with four because at the end of the day what I always come back to on this film is that this is a story about a real person who still lives and exists and literally lives where the production company is based. They theoretically have all the access they could ever dream of this person. And they told possibly the most boring part of this kid’s life that they told the story about him surviving childhood, playing in his high school marching band, playing in the university marching band when this dude has been on TV multiple times. He’s been on Moy Povich, he’s been on Oprah, he’s been around the world performing. He’s played on major stages. I’m thinking about a movie like Walk the Line, the bio-pic about Johnny Cash.
Hollis:
And eah
Jeff:
I’m like, can you imagine if Walk the Line was just about Johnny Cash’s childhood to university age? And that’s not to say that Patrick Henry Hughes is like what Johnny Cash level musical performer, but I think it does say that they missed so much interesting stuff about his life and they missed it because it didn’t fit the inspiration poor narrative in a clean and easy way, right?
sar:
Yep.
Jeff:
How could he be a sad disabled person if he’s also performing on Oprah? It doesn’t line up. Right. Sure. And for that reason, I think that even though it’s not intentional, it never is or rarely is I did this film, am punishing it, penalize it because there was a real opportunity here to tell a cool story about a genuinely interesting person. And I don’t think we got that story. I think we were robbed of that story. And instead the record will hold, at least for those who watched the film that Patrick Henry hug is a diamond dozen inspiration porn kid and I don’t think that’s exactly who he is. And for that I’m going to give it a four.
sar:
I think that’s a pretty nuanced review. I like that review.
Hollis:
Yeah. I would say it was a very accurate review
Jeff:
As we get angry on behalf of Patrick Henry here at Hughes. So if he doesn’t come and murder me when he does what I do and stalks me on the internet and finds where I live, so the scores have been tabulated drum roll please, with never have a term roll with shocking 45.5 Im potential comes in with our second highest category. A crime may have been committed, which feels about right I would say.
sar:
That’s accurate. I don’t think it’s the, I was debating whether this would be Jerry Lewis level and I didn’t feel it deserved Jerry Lewis level. It’s not one of the worst ones we saw this year, but it’s extremely problematic if you’re doing a disability or rendering of it.
Hollis:
Well, given the fact that you guys are saying that this is not the worst one that you have watched, I’m very happy that I’m not hosting a podcast.
sar:
You would not believe the bullshit that Jeff has made me watch. You would truly not believe it.
Jeff:
Oh, I’m such a bad person.
sar:
Oh no. This was one of the better ones. Hollis. Jeff clearly likes you as a friend. He gave you one of the better films.
Jeff:
Yeah. You didn’t get adequately punished, which I think means that you need to come back for a future episode.
sar:
Sounds like Hollis is coming up again!
Hollis:
I think I deserve a better punishment apart from putting up conversation with Jeff.
Jeff:
Well, we’ll see how your podcast that I’m going to join goes and we’ll see what level of torture you get after that.
Hollis:
There you go.
Jeff:
Yeah. Well thank you so much Hol, for joining us. It’s been a pleasure.
sar:
Thank you.
Hollis:
I am so happy that this, when you pair with me about making this show, I was super excited and it seems so far away and now it’s here and now it’s done. You did it. You survived.
sar:
We had so much fun with you.
Hollis:
It was a blast. Yeah, it was lovely to meet you as well. And I know at the beginning of the show you guys are saying how it’s September again and it is September and you guys are excited to go back. And I always now feel weird for me in Septembers because I’m not joined back and I have not joined back since before the pandemic. I drove by my old elementary school the other day and seeing the kids coming out of there, it’s like, oh my God, that was yesterday. Right?
Jeff:
Yeah. It’s such a weird loss. I mean, you think about Augusts when you were young and for myself, I always dreaded August because it meant that school was coming and I didn’t want to go back. And now as an adult, I mean I still go back to school. I’m a professor, I forgot to leave. But it’s such a different emotion. You missed the excitement and you missed the coming back together. And now in work lives, you don’t get that. Which is why I believe that capitalism should just shut off for two months in the summer. We should all just go on vacation, hang out, play in the forest together and spit in the woods. The woods, and then go back to work in September,
Hollis:
Be in a campfire singing Dear Abby. Yeah.
Jeff:
Yeah exactly. So King of Capitalism, I think that might be Elon Musk or Bezos maybe if you’re listening to this, give the people back summer holidays
sar:
End World Hunger. Just do it for fun. Honestly, if I had that much money, I’d just do it for funsies
Hollis:
And stop capitalism for two months and turned into, you know, part of the conversation was making me remember this, Jeff, do you remember when we used to go to the Easter Seals Camps? The winner is: Friendship. I hated that. Absolutely hated that.
Jeff:
Yeah. Absolutely.
sar:
That could have very easily been a scene in this film. If we were wondering about the tone of this film, the tone is Easter Seals Foundation Marathon.
Jeff:
Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much. Pretty much. So that wraps up another edition. It’s really the edition, I would say, of invalid culture, but we are not done yet, folks. We have two more films and then a very special Christmas episode. So tune in with us next month in October where things are going to get spooky. And by that I mean terrifying and not in the way the director intended. Have a good one. Enjoy Back to School.
Jeff:
And thus concludes another episode of Invalid Culture. Thank you for listening. I hope you enjoyed it or not. Either way, please take a second. If you haven’t to subscribe to our podcast on whatever platform you’re using, tell a friend, and better yet, do you want to be a victim on the podcast? Go on to our website, invalid culture.com, submit your name. We would love to terrorize you with a bad movie. Have a bad movie of your own that you think that we should watch. Again, jump on our website, invalid culture.com, submit it, and we would love to watch the Trash with Strangers on the internet. Everyone is wrong, I just haven’t told them yet.

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DVD Cover of Different Drummers, featuring Lyle putting maximum effort into pushing David's manual wheelchair

What if ADHD was a movie?

An autobiography written and scored by Lyle Hatcher, this 2013 film was almost doomed to the bargain bin of Dollar Stores across the nation when a miracle happened: streaming services like Amazon Prime and Tubi decided they did not care what quality of film was included in their libraries. Join Jeff & Erika as they explore this bio-pic about the trials and tribulations of two young disabled boys growing up in Spokane, Washington. Oh and also it’s about using plastic tubes to pee.

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Grading the Film

As always, this film is reviewed with scores recorded in four main categories, with 1 being the best and 5 being the worst. Like the game of golf, the lower the score the better.

How accurate is the representation?

Jeff – 3 / 5

Erika – 4 / 5

Total – 7 / 10

How difficult was it to watch the movie?

Erika – 4 / 5

Jeff – 4 / 5

Total – 8 / 10

How often were things unintentionally funny?

Erika – 5 / 5

Jeff – 5 / 5

Total – 10 / 10

How far back has it put disabled people?

Jeff – 3 / 5

Erika – 4 / 5

Total – 7 / 10

The Verdict

Jerry Lewis Seal of Approval

Podcast Transcript

Jeff: Growing up in Spokane, Washington can be tough. But you know what’s tougher? Growing up in Spokane, WA in the 1960s while also being a prophet of death. Follow the childhood hijinks of Lyle Hatcher, a young boy chronically afflicted with “the feeling”, as he forms a friendship with David Duffy. But David isn’t like the other kids. No, it’s not because he has muscular dystrophy. David is different because God tells him when people are going to die. But don’t worry. This movie isn’t really about that. It is really about the joys of childhood friendship and learning to accept difference. Follow David as they form an unbreakable bond, mourn the untimely death of their teacher, attempt to seduce one’s first girlfriend, put together a school science project, debate the usefulness of ADHD medication, attempt to teach Dave to walk (because God said so) and eventually forget all of that other stuff and instead host a fundraiser to find a cure. If you’re a person who likes countless obscure plotlines that are never fully resolved, that might make you a different drummer 

 

[Theme Music] Hip hop beat from “Hard Out Here For a Gimp” by Wheelchair Sports Camp 

 

Erika: Welcome to invalid culture a podcast dedicated to excavating the strangest, most baffling and worst representations of disability in popular culture. Unlike other podcasts that review films you’ve probably heard of Invalid Culture is all about looking into the abyss of pop culture adjacent representations that just never quite broke through because, well, they’re just awful. I’m joined today by my co-host Jeff Preston. Jeff, how are you? 

 

Jeff: Back at it. Ready for another fun day. So, I’m Jeff Preston. I am an assistant professor of disability studies. My research focuses on representations of disability in pop culture. So I am also joined here by my co-host today, Dr. Erika Katzman. How are you Dr. Katzman? 

 

Erika: Oh, I am thrilled to be back at this again. We’ve got a great conversation ahead of us. I’m losing my track of thought on how to introduce myself today. I am also an assistant professor and disability studies and my research doesn’t really focus on so much on the media side of things but I’m just generally interested in understanding how people think about disability, what kind of stories people are inclined to tell about disability. 

 

Jeff: Now, before we get started today I think it’s important that we start every episode with that mental health check in. Erika, are you regretting doing this yet? 

 

Erika: Of all the things in my life that I regret this is pretty low on the list. 

 

Jeff: Wow, that’s great. I’m going to hold that. I will replay this clip at episode 50 when you wonder why, why you allowed me to talk to you into this. 

 

Erika: And you? Are you are you feeling OK about this decision? 

 

Jeff: you, know I really do question a lot of decisions I’ve made in my life. This one’s actually pretty high, I think. I don’t know that that regret is the right word but it’s going to be very interesting to see how our brains are ruined by these films. I think just sadness and rage would be the outcome. 

 

Erika: if we ever need to rebrand “sadness and rage” might be the name. 

 

Jeff: So, today we have another just stupendous example of invalid culture. We are going to be watching a film which touches the heart, I guess? This is a horse movie that you can find on almost every streaming platform as well as vast majorities of it can be found on YouTube. We are of course talking about the film Different Drummers. So, what is Different Drummers? How does Different Drummers describe itself? Erika, take it away. 

 

Erika: From the box: based on an inspiring true story Different Drummers follows the heartwarming yet unlikely friendship of two boys growing up in Washington in the 1960s. When David, who is bound to a wheelchair and growing weaker for muscular dystrophy, accurately foretells the death of his fourth-grade teacher, a doubtful Lyle, who has an increasingly high energy level decides to test the existence of God by attempting to get David to run again. A pact is made and Lyle soon begins to twist the rules in a desperate attempt to give his friend some of his own excess energy. Along the way, the two boys come face to face with life’s most painful truths and Lyle’s question is ultimately answered in a way he never could have imagined. 

 

Jeff: I think this is a phenomenal place for us to start because if you were listening to that and have no idea what the beginning, middle, end of this film is, I think the back of this box captured the viewing experience of Different Drummers. 

 

Erika: It captures a lot more than I would have imagined. I mean, I don’t want to launch into our themes quite yet but I’m amazed to see them surfacing here. 

 

Jeff: it’s almost as though they understood what they were doing. Maybe. 

 

Erika: you know, I think that’s a good way of characterizing this particular film. Like, this is one where it actually, perhaps more than with others, feels like they might have understood what they were doing. 

 

Jeff: They certainly seemed to have some technical abilities. There was some technical things that were, like, I think it was well lit. The audio was fine. There was actually some passable CGI in this film. Like there was actually some production value. While at the same time just being ,very confusing and very all over the place throughout. I think one of my first questions to you is what question was Lyle trying to get answered? 

 

Erika: I think the questions were out there. I don’t know if they were answered. I mean, they’re claiming that the question was answered, but I mean, when we get to talking about that very blunt answer, I’m not sure which question it is meant to answer, to be honest. 

 

Jeff: My other question I had for you on this is, was their friendship unlikely? Like, because it’s a wheelchair boy in walkie? They’re two young boys, who you, know appear to be of similar ethnic background, class, same age. So, there’s a whole lot of similarities going on that would lead me to believe this is very likely friendship. 

 

Jeff: Yeah, I mean, this isn’t like a bear becoming friends with a rabbit by any means. 

 

Erika: No, it strikes me as a highly likely friendship. 

 

Jeff: [laughing] Right, completely plausible friendship. I guess that doesn’t have the same ring. 

 

Erika: This is where it is important to note, to remember that this is Lyle’s story.  

 

Jeff: Yes. 

 

Erika: So, if we’re being told that this was an unlikely friendship, is this is this Lyle telling us that it was an unlikely friendship? That it caught him off guard? 

 

Jeff: Interesting. I would say that Lyle was perhaps not the only person caught off guard in this film. I think, actually, a lot of the reviewers of this film were also caught a little off guard. Now, we have two interesting popular press reviews that we have pulled, one which is really interesting and the other which is quite harsh. So, we have officially reached our first milestone on this podcast in which we found somebody who did not like a film featuring a child with a disability. They persevered and they were like, we’re going to write bad on it. And that was, shout out to you Josh Terry, the Deseret News. Here’s what he had to say: “poor writing, acting and execution leaves Different Drummers impossible to justify. If the weak actors aren’t monotoning their standard lines of dialogue, the reasonable actors are stumbling their way through the muddled ones and myriad cheesy and distracting music passages persistently undermine the whole lot. A simple problem for Different Drummers is that it is playing out of its league. As a direct-to- video release, it would be passed over as a harmless, low budget tribute to a boy who lived with muscular dystrophy 50 years ago. But, as a major Multiplex, at nearly $10 a ticket, the film feels painfully out of place.”  

 

Erika: That’s harsh!  

 

Jeff: George Terry does not care anymore he is just going to eviscerate anyone in this film. 

 

Erika: Like, I guess this is the point at which it becomes very clear that I am no film critic. I did not think it was that bad. I truly did not notice poor acting, muddled delivery. Did you? 

 

Jeff: I think this is what happens when you and I don’t have it direct financial claim against this film. As people who have paid for prime video and are using it for a myriad of other wonderful films, I think Josh Terry here is just feeling really burned for that $10 they had to spend. Also, why is the Deseret News not paying for their reviewers to watch these films? 

Erika: I think he was on about the music. I did, the music was something. 

 
Jeff: The music felt like the early days of YouTube when people were first getting copyright striked and then you had all of these like, royalty free or copyleft music that were just like, just adjacent to good that YouTube users started piling on, where you’re like, right, this is a classic generic rock song that’s completely nondescript and just like a little off.  

 

Erika: So, musically that’s where it was, but lyrically it was very much tailored. Like, do we know? The soundtrack must have been custom to this film. 

 

Jeff: I have absolutely no doubt that Lyle and Don wrote the music for this film. I have no doubt and if I’m wrong I don’t want to know because in my world they were in the studio cutting these things up. This is all you need, it’s not every emotion you could want to feel through song. It’s got it all. Now, Josh Terry’s wasn’t the only review we were able to find. We also found this very interesting review by Tim or Tom Krogh? How do we say that last name do you think?  

 

Erika: Keogh?  

 

Jeff: Sure. TK, as he is known by his friends, presumably. From the Seattle Times, he had this to say: “There’s a sense of unstructured play about Different Drummers. A kind of ambling from one whimsical activity to the next without much traditionally story telling”. TK then goes on to give this film a three out of four. 75 %. 

 

Erika: So, he was not bothered, he’s really more remarking on the unstructured play then critiquing it. 

 

Jeff: Yes, it was an observation. It’s like, ‘so I watched born on the 4th of July and there was a man in a wheelchair in it. Three out of four stars.’ 

 

Erika: Now, this was actually something that you had remarked on yourself watching the film, was it not? 

 

Jeff: yeah, 100%. I felt like the first time I watched this film — and yes, that is a confirmation that I have watched this film more than once — the first time I watched it I remember feeling like all the movie did was introduced new plotlines and I don’t really remember in the first viewing many of those plotlines being resolved. Now, on a second sober viewing I’ve discovered that, much like the Canadian Senate, you can understand things better when given time to evaluate things. And, in fact, there was some resolution. But, by my count, there are approximately 7 plotlines that informed this film. So, you know, the movie starts out with this plot line around Lyle having a crush on a girl at school and he want to dance with her and then we get our first extremely long musical interlude. Things then change up and move on to, I think, our second plot, which is a science project to disprove or prove – I think probably prove is what they were thinking, to prove God’s existence, using science to prove God. And then there’s sort of this like subplot, I think, under there, around David is going to teach – sorry, Lyle is going to teach David how to run. And then we wonder the bug collection. They decide they want to collect all of the bugs. That then shifts very quickly into raising money to cure muscular dystrophy, which I guess is maybe a continuation of the teaching to run subplot, but I don’t think it is, because that of course culminates in this, like, variety show fundraiser, which is kind of its own thing. We then, about halfway through the movie, maybe a little more than halfway through the movie, we get this very serious plot around ADHD and medication and this huge debate as to whether or not Lyle should be medicated. Lyle then get threatened by a bully in a school bus and there’s this like, ominous “you’re gonna get what’s coming to you, Lyle.” He doesn’t. It’s never addressed. And then we have the final act, which I think is about this question around death and dying. People die, and will people die or won’t they, dying and death is everywhere, we can escape it. By my count that’s about 7 plotlines. How many of those seven would you say were resolved? 

 

Erika: [laughing]. OK I’m pretty sure we forgot about, the romantic things dropped, that was never carried. The bug collection came and went. 

 

Jeff: that’s true, they did find — they sort of resolved it in that it got eaten by a mouse? 

 

Erika: [laughing] the bully dropped off, that didn’t happen. So, I think we mostly ended up focusing on this, I mean the ADHD medication and medicate versus segregate situation, kind of, that was pretty forefront. Did we prove God’s existence? 

 

Jeff: I’m gonna argue yes, because of the final scene when he runs with David.  

 

Erika: And I guess money was raised. 

 

Jeff: Yeah, the fundraiser happened. OK, so they’re batting like 80%. 

 

Erika: Yeah, you know, I’m kind of with Tom here. TK? I think it may have broken some rules of traditional storytelling but I don’t think it was unsuccessful in doing so. 

 

Jeff: yeah, I think you’re right. It was untidy, but I think there was like, a story was told. I feel like we were given a slice of life of these two boys. Like, a year of their time together.  

 

Erika: yeah. I have a hard time following multi plots and multi characters. I’ve never been able to make it through Snatch. I’ve tried several times. I didn’t have any trouble following what was going on here. 

 

Jeff: Yeah, no. I think it was it wasn’t bad. There were also a surprisingly number of actors in this. Yeah, usually like the key to those low budget films is there’s like four people involved. There were entire classrooms of people involved in this film. 

 

Erika: Oh yeah, I had the sense that we were genuinely in a school.  

 

Jeff: There was a presence, there was a reality to it. Even if all of the characters seemed to have this like, retrospective sheen about them, right? Like, the cop is just like, a little too like, 1950s police officer at the café, you know, sitting on the barstool. Like, it was a little too American Gothic in some character development. 

 

Erika: Yeah and like the janitor, similarly, he’s a little overdone. He’s great, but a little overdone. 

 

Jeff: He’s a stud and I’m in love with him and I would 100% marry man if it was Mr Merrick. Yeah, both of those characters seemed to have an underlying, this may have been a porno shoot that was happening at the same time. 

 

Erika: 100%. 

 

Jeff: And they were just like, alright, so we will take the clean bits for Different Drummers and then the hardcore bits we’ll put over for our janitor porn and our cop porn. There was a bit of a porny vibe to both these characters. 

 

Erika: The cop especially, he was having a hard time getting out of character when he dropped back into the kids movie. 

 

Jeff: yeah, 100%. He looked like he was a moment away from putting someone under arrest for being too sexy. Now, if you are a film connoisseur you will know that the real reviews are not to be found in the newspapers but rather they are found in the Amazon review section.  

 

Erika: And do we ever have some goodies today. 

 

Jeff: We have curated some phenomenal examples. There were a lot of phenomenal reviews for this film. Erika, why don’t you start us off. 

 

Erika: I will happily start us off. So, Robin S, one of many five out of five stars. A review titled “a very meaningful story”: bought this for my 89.5 year old dad. He loved it and really enjoyed the two boys. This is not one of the ‘happily ever after’ stories that I normally try to pick out for him, but he still gave it a thumbs up. 

 

Jeff: Robin’s got a lot of detail. A natural storyteller. 

 

Erika: A keen eye for detail.  

 

Jeff: Her father is not 90 years old. 

 

Erika: 89.5. 

 

Jeff: I’m glad that he liked the two boys. That’s good. I also like the idea that Robin is like, trapping her father at home and just feeding him these happily ever after stories as some sort of like, mental health treatment maybe or like just trying to keep him optimistic about the world and this one kind of like, snuck in. 

 

Erika: I’m just also very curious that like, this was bought? 

 

Jeff: [Laughing] right? 

 

Erika: When and where was this purchased? 
 
Jeff: That is actually a great question. Presumably off Amazon, I suppose. I suppose she purchased this from Amazon, which then also begs the question: how did Robin S find this film?  

 

Erika: Oh, well naturally while looking for happily ever after stories. 

 

Jeff: right. 

 

Erika: If there’s a wheelchair on the cover you know it’s a happy ending. 

 

Jeff: it’s going to uplift you. You’re gonna feel uplifted. 

 

Erika: so, this is what actually, this is what I love about this review is that Robin deems this is not one of those happily ever after stories. I mean, ah, OK. I guess we do end with death. 

 

Jeff: but arguably it is a sanitized death. Like it is positioned as like, a freedom that is bestowed upon this child. He is liberated from his impairment. 

 

Erika: Yeah, again that’s why this one caught me, because, and maybe this is a strange thing to admit but when I read this review I forgot that he died. And I thought — because the death was not the sort of the pinnacle moment of this film. 

 

Jeff: It was definitely the moment when I almost peed myself in this film, I will say. It is the most brazen movie ending I think I’ve ever seen. It takes a real tone shift in that last 10 minutes. 

 

Erika: So much so that Robin’s dad still gave it a thumbs up. 

 

Jeff: Yeah, he liked it. He was there for the ride. 

 

Erika: Despite the death of one of those two boys, he really enjoyed it. 

 

Jeff: This is markedly different than the review by Joshua Matthew Manibo Samarita, who, also five out of five stars, however, “quite disappointed” was the title of this review. “I will give this movie a five star but I’m kind of disappointed. It feels like expectation versus reality. My expectation is there though it is not enough. I thought this movie make me cry but it was not. I still recommend this movie. It quite nice. 

 

Erika: [laughing] 

 

Jeff: [laughing] Joshua, you are a beautiful human. A beautiful soul. You wanted to cry, you didn’t get it, but you’re still going to pump the tires. 

 

Erika: interesting, right? Robin and Joshua both had significant expectations of this film going in. 

 

Jeff: High expectations. 

 

Erika: Robin, I guess so like, Robin was expecting happily ever after. Josh was expecting to cry. 

 

Jeff: He wanted to feel terrible. 

 

Erika: but I can only assume, oh, I was assuming it was like, I’m gonna have a good cry but then I’m still gonna get my happily ever after. Like, I think maybe Joshua was just misidentifying what happened here. Joshua was actually quite disappointed because it was not quite the happily ever after that they were after.  

 

Jeff: That’s an interesting read. “I thought this movie made me cry, but it was not.” I think that might be the new slogan of this of this podcast. “I thought this movie made me cry, but it was not.” That’s my feeling about all of the movies we watch for this so far. 

 

Erika: [laughing]. For something completely different, Melissa Lindsay, another five out of five, title of the review: “donation”. Review content, and I quote: “a donation for rainy day bingo basket.” 

 

Jeff: [laughing]. Perfect. 

 

Erika: May I posit this is where Robin S bought the video. 

 

Jeff: or received. 

 

Erika: [laughing]. 

 

Jeff: she received this one day playing bingo. 

 

Erika: Is a rainy day bingo basket a thing? Like, is she saying that there’s the lottery, like you just pick up those discount DVDs at Walmart and chuck em in the rainy day bingo basket and then when it’s a rainy day you just draw one out and give her a go? 

 

Jeff: I think so. So my suspicion on this, this is my hot take, I could be totally wrong. Melissa Lindsay, contact us if we’re wrong on this, if I’m mischaracterizing you. I suspect that Melissa Lindsay is an educator. I think that she may be a teacher, whether that be public school or possibly a Sunday school situation and I’m guessing that what she’s doing is she’s buying cheap things, like little trinkets and prizes and then when the kids can’t go out ’cause it’s raining they play bingo and she gives or they can choose something out of the basket. That’s my theory, that’s my fan theory of Melissa Lindsay. 

 

Erika: I like it, I like it a lot.  

 

Jeff: if you were a child and you received this DVD for winning bingo, would that drive you to violence? 

 

Erika: I don’t know if I would get this film as a child. I don’t think this is a kids film. 

 

Jeff: no. I don’t know that this is an anyone film. Can we just put that on the table right off the bat? The question of who this is for, I think this is for Lyle Hatcher. That is who this is for. 

 

Erika: oh, 100 %. 

 

Jeff: This is an audience of 1. I think I would probably turn this DVD into a weapon and try to stab someone if this was the prize I won. As a child, I would not understand why there were no real drummers in this film until the absolute end. So, a more nuanced analysis comes to us from Frances, four to five stars, titled “well acted, layered message, very worth seeing.” And that title is actually her review, the review also reads “well acted, layered message, very worth seeing.” Would you say the message was layered in this film, Erika? 

 

Erika: I mean, if you think about all those plotlines like lasagna layers, there was a lot going on/ 

 

Jeff: that is true, it was very tiered. I think tiered is maybe what she means. The other one that I thoroughly enjoyed was by user “caddy”. 5/5 stars, the review reads, in all caps: CHILDREN’S MINISTRY. CHILDREN ENJOYED THE DVD. 

 

Erika: [clears throat]. We did just a salad but this is not a children’s movie, right? 

 

Jeff: I believe so. I would love to know whether or not the children actually said that. I would really wonder. I also like that, I respect the fact that she felt the needed to explain where she screened it. 

 

Erika: I mean, there is a fair bit of God. 

 

Jeff: yeah, God adjacent.  

 

Erika: mhm. 

 

Jeff: Yeah, I like the fact that this movie does not really lock down its religious, like it is sort of monotheist religion but, you know, it’s not really pushing any particular brand of religion provided it’s like a monotheist. So you know, any of those sort of old testament could fit under this rubric. And I think, Erika, you my other favorite. 

 

Erika: ooh, if we have time for one more, please may I? 

 

Jeff: I think so, ’cause it’s so good. 

 

Erika: PewDiePie, untitled but three out of five stars: “it was OK. I didn’t like the ending.” Yeah. 

 

Jeff: It was OK, I didn’t like the ending. 

 

Erika: There’s a chance that I’m PewDiePie.  

 

Jeff: This is actually the exact same review I left on Titanic. 

 

Erika: [laughing]. 

 

Jeff: it was OK. I didn’t like the ending. 

 

Erika: I actually, you know, this captures my feelings about this film. 

 

Jeff: do you think that that Lyle and Don have read these reviews and are like, if we had just made a better ending this would have blown up. 

 

Erika: see, I think where they erred is like, I think they essentially have two endings. 

 

Jeff: why did they not end it at the end of the telethon celebration? 

 

Erika: had he run through the woods yet at that point? Because… 

 

Jeff: no. 

 

Erika: yeah. 

 

Jeff: [laughing] and they needed to kill him off in order for that scene to happen, I suppose. 

 

Erika: I just feel like maybe they could have, instead of killing him, just had him run through the woods, as a like, euphemistic or more ambiguous… 

 

Jeff: Right, like maybe they did cure muscular dystrophy in this universe. 

 

Erika: exactly. Like, we didn’t need to know for sure whether he died to enjoy him running through the woods. 

 

Jeff: I would argue that whether or not David died in real life he was going to die in this film. 

 

Erika: ooh. 

 

Jeff: it was destined to happen. Cause death lurks around every corner. So, we’ve heard what the experts have to say, let’s hear what the dunces have to say. Erika, where are you on this? 

 

Erika: Like I said, I’m with PewDiePie. I didn’t like the ending, but it was OK. 

 

Jeff: I’m going way off the board on this one, I’m giving this sucker 4.5 out of five stars. 

 

Erika: woah! 

 

Jeff: I think this movie was almost perfect in that it gave me everything I wanted. Which was, a horrible film that was just baffing in most of the time and I’m not even joking, I literally almost peed myself at the end of the film. It was very close. Very close. I almost burst with fluids because I was laughing so hard. 

 

Erika: can I just say, I hope that while bursting with fluids you had your piss tube too handy. 

 

Jeff: [laughing] 

 

[musical interlude] Rock n’ roll piano progression from “Dead Letter and the Infinite Yes” by Wintersleep 

 

Erika: this is the point at which we start to get into the nitty gritty and talk a little bit more about what happened here. What worked, what didn’t. But, where we always like to get started is unpacking a bit how this film, which was certainly a film about disability, how was disability portrayed in this film? 

 

Jeff: a question it’s a little bit hard to answer in some ways. This film shows, unlike a lot of the other films, I think it approached the story of disability not from the like, the really hard biomedical perspective, there were no doctors really in this film, there wasn’t like, long descriptions of biological results of impairment. They really did try to like capture this through the lens of two children trying to understand each other in some ways, with two main characters that do have very different disabilities. So, I would say that with muscular dystrophy there’s this constant story about how David, who has muscular dystrophy, presumably Duchenne’s muscular dystrophy, is degenerating. He’s gotten weaker, there’s all these other comments about how he’s not able to do things, how he remembers how he used to be able to walk and run, now he can’t. One of my favorite scenes is when Lyle and David are comparing their thighs in the pool and their legs in general. It was this bizarrely corporeal moment which is also, though, like, I could see young boys doing this. Like, it was essentially a phallic measuring moment in which we find out that David has enormous legs and feet and Lyle does not. We’ll let the Freudians unpacked that however they wish to. But disability is really, I would say, marked add as being a lack. The individual is lacking in quite a few ways even if they are, David is marked as being quite smart. He’s supposed to be a bit of a brainiac. 

 

Erika: And then in contrast we have Lyle. I had not heard of this diagnosis before, minimal brain dysfunction. I was puzzled to piece together that this was an ADHD. So, we learn that Lyle is at times overtaken by “the feeling”. 

 

Jeff: “the feeling”. 

 

Erika: This ominous, possession almost, that, it causes him to run. This is a little foggy for me too. The feeling I think suggests something more emotional, needing it needing to run it off suggest something more emotional, and so the ADHD label that we come to realize it is was it, just felt like a slight mismatch. But, having said that, our research reveals that this film is essentially Lyle’s story. This is Lyle telling his own story, his take on himself and his relationship with David and so understanding that this is Lyle’s self narrative, I mean, I’m inclined to accept it for whatever discrepancies there are, whatever I’m perhaps missing, I think it is Lyle’s expression of himself and his experiences, so I’m open to it and I, yeah. I’m kind of here for that. 

 

Jeff: yeah the way that, and maybe it’s just the actor, the way he delivers the first line when he’s like “the feeling”. When I first watched this, I thought this is going to be like a psychosis. 

 

Clip from the film:  

 

Lyle: see, I got this thing, my brother calls it “the feeling”. It’s kind of a problem. 

David: OK. Well, I was wondering about it. I mean what’s it like?  

Lyle: You know those little drummers, the kind you gotta wind up? 

David: yeah. 

Lyle: you know when you wind them up and wind them up and wind them up and they go like this [rapid footsteps]. 

David: are you kidding me? That’s what running is like? 

Lyle: running? I thought we were talking about the feeling.  

 

Jeff: And I guess that what he’s sort of talking about is like the energy, this like electric kind of feeling, I guess, is where it’s coming from. But despite having the feeling, there was this weird, interesting dynamic with his family and feelings [emphasized “s”]. What was that all about? 

 

Erika: yeah, what was that all about? It did not feel organic to the film, it felt kind of forced that it was being written into dialogue that emotions are not allowed. And it was, interestingly, it was coming from this mother. So there’s a scene where the boys are playing and they get shot? 

 

Jeff: Yeah, Lyle gets—there’s a gang bang drive pellet gunning. 

 

Erika: [laughing] yes. 

 

Jeff: Where did these kids grow up? 

 

Erika: right? Another scene that just came out of left field. 

 

Jeff: He ran through private property and then when he was running through the private property there were these, I’m going to say, antifa, probably, warriors, on the private property squatting, who had two rifles, who then proceeded to pellet and bludgeon Lyle to the ground from cutting through this private property. 

 

Erika: and so, as Lyle is back at home and his mom is, I think, tweezing the pellets out of his leg, she reminds him that he’s not cry. 

 

Jeff: no crying. 

 

Erika: there are no emotions allowed in this family. 

 

Jeff: yeah. Lyle has just experienced an attempted assassination and his mother tells him no crying. 

 

Erika: This is interesting, ’cause this almost, I feel like with Lyle’s ADHD, like, there’s this portrayal of him as almost too much. You know, if David is lack, Lyle is excess. He’s just oozing with energy. He’s running, he’s climbing, he’s loud. You know, he’s just kind of bouncy and so this, the no emotions narrative is almost like a reaffirmation that he is excessive and needs to reign it in. 

 

Jeff: And I feel like that’s where I struggle with that definition that they are an unlikely friend grouping, because I feel like this is a really common thing in film right where they’re like, this is like the opposites attract, the odd couple. We’ve seen this story so often, right, where it’s like, one of them is super energetic and running around and very physical all the time and high energy and the other is quiet and slow and more thoughtful and he’s sort of like the brain and Lyle is like, the action. This is like that movie The Mighty (which might be another film we should probably watch for this). 

 

Erika: hmm. 

 

Jeff: there like, this is actually a really common trope in stories about disability, where they are like, well if one of you is lacking something then we need to give the other one like, this excessiveness. And then we put you together and together you almost form like, one person. It’s like you have enough when you’re put together. 

 

Erika: yeah, I mean. it’s kind of a natural recipe for chemistry, like for harmony, some kind of balance. 

 

Jeff: right, yeah. Like there’s kind of this yin/yang thing going on.  

 

Erika: What can, what can these opposites offer each other. 

 

Jeff: right and there is like completely this transactional kind of narrative around his relationship too, right? That Lyle has the physicality, David has the thought, the ideas. He’s the ideas man. 

 

Erika: does it play out such that David kind of brings Lyle up academically? Because they’re working through the science fair and they’re doing all of these cool science things and then on the flipside Lyle and all of his energy is sort of like working on David’s physicality, like getting him more active. 

 
Jeff: I think absolutely that’s what’s going on here. That they are balancing each other out. Lyle has a purpose through David and it’s the first time that he ever really like commits to anything as we’ve been told in the film. 

 

Erika: I guess this is kind of reflecting the overall fact that this is Lyle’s story, but we see this play out in a few ways in the film. So Lyle takes on this sort of mixed quest to, I guess, maybe it’s not that mixed. Lyle’s quest is essentially to cure David. 

 

Jeff: Yeah. 

 

Erika: He wants to make him walk and he wants to raise money for him. 

 

Jeff: To get him to run again. 

 

Erika: yeah, by curing. I think, I’m pretty sure he specifically says in the movie that he wants to raise money for researchers. 

 

Jeff: yep, this is a bit of like a, this like a nature versus, or a science versus religion, I think, in some ways, right? And it is once they lean into science that David is smited. They have a fundraiser to get a cure and David is killed almost immediately after.  

 

Erika: really God wins this science-religion … what is the word? 

 

Jeff: Debate? 

 

Erika: Duel? 

 

Jeff: [laughing]. Schism? 

 

Erika: ooh. You made it all fancy [laughing].  

 

Jeff: maybe? I don’t know. Now, religion was a big part of this film and its tied directly, I think, to disability. Specifically, through these very strange inserted moments of Lyle’s mother and often Lyle himself watching televangelists Jack Lalane and specifically the phrase, “the great physician above”. 

 

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Lyle: I don’t want you to get discouraged or anything to get your way. At first you’ll think it’s things impossible, but believe me,  if you just asked a good position above for guidance and to give you the willpower to do the right thing then I don’t care what you do next. 

David: wait a minute, what did you just say? 

Lyle: uhh. 

David: what did you say right then, about the good physician above? 

Lyle: oh, oh. What I said was, if you just ask the good physician above for guidance and to give it the will power to do the right thing that I don’t care… 

David: wait a second. Wait just a dog gone second. Jack Lalane  said that on TV this morning. This whole thing is Jack Lalane. 

 

Jeff: the physician then becomes this apt metaphor for a higher power that has the power of life and death in their hands and like, although it’s a little clunky, it’s not and perhaps the best execution of it but there are several moments where Lyle seems to be asking for David to give himself over to a higher power. He literally uses that kind of phrasing but it’s not quite as like, obvious as it would be I think in other religious films where there’s this very like, you must give yourself to God in order to get the, whatever, and that might be because this film seems to play into another common trope, which is the connection between disabled children and God himself. That’s right, David is in commune with God. He speaks to God, God tells him things, he actually prophesizes things in the movie. He prophesizes the death of their teacher. So David is talking to not already, but Lyle is going to become this like, spiritual leader to train him how to walk again. Tied always right with the question of God though is this question of death and dying, which I think is another big trope that comes up a lot with disability. That proximity to death. Like, we’re primed like right off the bat — David is going to die. Now, there is a bit of a playfulness ’cause it appears as though he’s going to die in a wheelchair accident at the very beginning of the film, is how it’s sort of primed. Oh, I should mention there’s a flash forward in this film. If you want if you weren’t sure about how many balls are in the air, the movie begins with a, ‘here’s something you’re going to see in about an hour and a half later’. Maybe an hour later, when they’re going to run down the down the road on the wheelchair and nearly die. But death is sort of constantly surrounding him, but it’s also kind of also surrounding Lyle as well. We got all this sort of talk about Lyle having these sort of episodes that are perpetually putting people at risk and particularly this belief that Lyle is going to be the death of David. That Lyle’s excess is just going to eviscerate the fragile body of David. 

 

Erika: so, yeah, there’s an interesting play with Lyle being all about this excess, being so big and so much for people to handle but he’s also lacking. For reasons unknown it is mentioned that he’s colorblind very briefly, he’s bad at school, of course, because you know he’s having trouble sitting still and focusing, staying engaged and we also see that he’s kind of unsuccessful with love. Interesting that he has some romantic exchanges at all because we definitely notice that David doesn’t have any of those. 

 

Jeff: none. 

 

Erika: but a couple of times we see Lyle flirting with a young woman or professing his strong feelings for one of his classmates but he’s not successful in love ultimately and so we do see him we do see him portrayed as lacking in a couple of different ways. 

 

Jeff: He seems to be positioned as really disliked within the school. Lyle does not appear to have friends until he meets up with David, which I think it means that it’s time for us to talk about perhaps what went wrong in this film. Some of the oddities, the strange things that we noticed, the questions that are left unanswered and the first question that I have for you Erika professionally, as an occupational therapist: these two characters meet in the bathroom. They are sent to the bathroom together which, maybe that was a thing in the 60s I don’t know, and it is here we are introduced to the way that David uses the toilet. Now I myself, as a man with a physical disability, have never thought of or been instructed to use a PVC pipe to pee down and into a toilet. And, to mount this urine tube like a rocket launcher on the side of my wheelchair for ready access to my piss tube whenever I need it. My question to you Erika, as an OT, how many piss tubes have you prescribed in your professional career? 

 

Erika: to date, um, yeah none. 

 

Jeff: [laughing] 

 

Erika: That’s not a thing. I mean I have seen piss in tubes, but never a PVC pipe with a chest strap attached is something that I could only describe as a poster holder? Yeah, that’s not a thing. 

 

Jeff: yeah. The piss rocket immediately got my attention. 

 

Erika: oh, Jeff. I will not forget the day that you texted me, long before we had even discussed the podcast. 

 

Jeff: the first time I saw this movie in the midst of the movie I immediately picked up my phone and texted Erika and asked her if, in her experience, she has ever seen someone using a piss rocket. A shoulder mounted piss rocket. I have gone in and looked and I could not find any examples of this in the world. Like, portable urinals,  the jug urinal things, existed well before this movie and well before the 1960s. I am baffled by this. 

 

Erika: oh, it’s entirely impractical. Just like everything about it. If you’re gonna take a pipe like why would it be straight, right? 

 

Jeff: Right. 

 

Erika: Why wouldn’t it be curved? 

 

Jeff: Right! 

 

Erika: it’s like an arm length tube.  

 

Jeff: it’s like 6 feet! 

 

Erika: how are you gonna wash it? How are you going to keep it, this is just, nothing about this makes any practical sense.  

 

Jeff: You would have to be very far from the toilet, extremely far. I actually would argue this may only work in a urinal ’cause I don’t know if you would have the right gravity. I don’t know that the wheelchair sitter would be high enough for the urine to run down the tube and into the toilet.  

 

Erika: without it being dipped right into the toilet water. 

 

Jeff: right, yes and whether or not your seat is actually higher. Like, I’m not always higher than the toilet. They have those really tall toilets right, for transfers, where I think you’d be like peeing across like a plane. You wouldn’t get the gravity flow down and in fact it might actually roll back on you this piss tube would also smell just terrible. 

 

Erika: oh yeah. 

 

Jeff: and it’s right beside his head the entire movie. 

 

Erika: yeah, I mean this thing is, it’s just ridiculous in so many ways. I have maybe 2 theories about the piss tube. One is like, it must have existed in real life.  

 

Jeff: how could it not? There’s no way someone would make this up. 

 

Erika: so that’s running theory one, is that this was real and who knows why. Maybe in their, I mean, weren’t they in Washington? 

 

Jeff: Spokane, WA yeah. 

 

Erika: yeah, so it’s not like they were in like a small isolated place where maybe they didn’t have the same access to medical equipment like a urinal. The only other theory is that for some reason, and again, calling on our psychoanalysts, they just really wanted a very visible reminder of David’s urine. 

Jeff: I wonder if this was about the gag. Like that this was like, they added this in because they thought it would be funny. When they first me, Lyle would have like a moment, would have a “condition”,  where he would grab the pipe, start swinging it around, and then use it like a trumpet. 

 

Erika: which happened. 

 

Jeff: which happens, 100% that is what happens and that’s how they like, bond. They bond over Lyle essentially putting his mouth on David’s penis. Or at least putting it somewhere David’s penis has been. And it’s played as this is sort of like, ha ha ha that’s so gross. And I think it’s like a boys will be gross thing maybe? I don’t know. Or maybe this is, as you said, about the fluids and about how Lyle is — their friendship is locked in because Lyle doesn’t run away at the contamination of the urine. 

 

Erika: yeah, his reaction is mild for having just realized that he just put his mouth on someone’s urine stick.  

 

Jeff: He is like that was inconvenient. 

 

Erika: [laughing] 

 

Jeff: I probably shouldn’t have done that. Will I do it again? Maybe. I think it’s also germane to the conversation that there are several real photos of David on the Internet in some documentaries and none of those photos include a shoulder mounted piss rocket. 

 

Erika: [laughing] 

 

Jeff: I don’t know if they just take it off for photos maybe, or this is completely made up which leads to a big question: does Lyle understand how David uses the bathroom? Or was this an assumption that Lyle has made over the years.  

 

Erika: I wonder if David had some other kind of device that he actually hung on his chair that Lyle just always fantastically presumed was a piss tube. 

 

Jeff: This wasn’t the only thing though that was a little weird about disability in the film. 

 

Erika: this was the weirdest though and this one I think like, this one was weird in a way that the others were not. This one was uniquely weird, weird and unique to this film. The other like, doing disability weirdly things were more like stereotypes. 

 

Jeff: Oh yeah. 

 

Erika: obviously while David needs someone to go to the bathroom with him. There was a good ol head pat at least once in the film. 

 

Jeff: there was that, and I think the other thing that was very common about this film was David’s asexuality. David is really the only character that doesn’t seem to have any sort of interest or active engagement in the world of sexual relations. Lyle has like a weird little obsession, David teases him about that obsession, David is friends with the girls. He has no problem talking to them, but shows no interest otherwise in any of the women. We even meet David’s brother’s girlfriend. We meet everyone else’s interested, but David is not sexual. He has no interest in the opposite sex aside from friendship. I think it’s bound up in like, physical disability therefore not sexually active. 

 

Erika: do you think there’s any connection with like, his closeness with God and his presumed imminent death? Do those layer in there? 

 

Jeff: mm. like a piety thing perhaps. That’s an interesting take. 

 

Erika: so carrying on with the aspects of the film that we are not celebrating, shall we say? There was definitely that disability as requiring treatment or cure, so we had this pursuit to cure muscular dystrophy. Interesting, well I guess we were– so we have these two disabilities kind of running side by side in the film, we’ve got the muscular dystrophy and ADHD. And clearly like, a lot of emphasis on curing MD. I wouldn’t say that it’s curing ADHD that we’re after but there’s this whole conversation about medication, medicating Lyle in order to contain him. 

 

Jeff: yeah, I would say that is this interesting politics around the desire to cure David. There seems to be a desire for Lyle, Lyle is being let down and it’s more about the structural challenges that he faces. The school just isn’t set up right for him, presumably. 

 

Erika: I want to come back to this when we talk about what went right in the film, because I do think that there were some — this is kind of a strength of the film, is the fact that we have, you know, given that this is Lyle’s perspective, everything around ADHD is first person perspective, but I think that the flip side of that was that, and this is part of where the film goes a bit wrong, is that Lyle’s telling David story, making it all about this cure and overcoming. 

 

Jeff: This is a part that I think is really difficult when it comes to media studies and representations of disability, because in this unique instance we have a character with a terminal disability. At this time, children with Duchenne’s probably weren’t making it much past age 13, 14. They would have been dying quite young. That age expectancy is obviously a lot higher now, closer to 30 years old now, but it is still a terminal disease and so on the one hand it’s, there’s this desire to eradicate the disability but on the other hand Lyle is trying to save his friend. The death is the biggest issue, but at the same time that’s not how the film positions it. Because the real positioning is David needs to run again. David needs the freedom from the chair. Not so much that David’s going to die from this. And he does die from it eventually, but that is sort of seen as like, maybe part of God’s plan? And so really it was the walking that needed to be cured. And I think that’s what really separates this film, you know. If it’s a movie about somebody with a terminal disease and they’re trying to survive I think that’s a completely rational, understandable, and that makes a lot of sense to me. But the weird focus on the running here, that it’s not just about saving his life, it really is about giving him a corporeal experience that he has lost and that’s thought to be somehow meaningful. That has like, a value that is urgently necessary for him.  

 

Erika: Well, OK. So I just I want to jump back to Jack. His stick was physical wellness as salvation and like, we see this repeatedly on mom’s television, so this is obviously something that was like, Lyle grew up hearing — that sitting is going to kill you. You need to get physically active. 

 

Jeff: Right. 

 

Erika: so I don’t know, maybe it’s a little bit of a time capsule. 

 

Jeff: that’s fascinating. 

 

Erika: yeah. And that’s not the only, I think we could speculate, TV influence that has shaped the plotlines of this film because we know for a while that Lyle wants to raise money and then we learn that there’s going to be talent show at school and I think, as we were first presented to it I thought like, oh OK we’re just setting up one more thing that David, for whatever reason, isn’t going to be able to participate in. But then we realize that Lyle has decided that specifically he’s going to walk on his hands for, what is it, like 100 yards or something? To raise money. And then all of a sudden as it starts to come together, we suddenly have essentially a telethon on our hands. 

 

Jeff: right! That is another one of my favorite parts of this movie. 

 

Erika: oh, hands down. 

 

Jeff: Is that this is a movie set in the 1960s and as our beloved listeners know, I’m sure, the Jerry Lewis telethon on starts in 1964. So this is happening right, essentially, at the start of the telethon. This film ends with essentially a variety show in which the children get up and do a bunch of talents and then culminates with a fundraiser. I think this is a telethon. 

 

Erika: oh, I think you missed the detail where firefighters are standing by, waiting collect donations. 

 

Jeff: Right, absolutely. And of course, firefighters are, most firefighter charities are giving money to muscular dystrophy, that’s their disability of choice. I believe that actually wasn’t a thing yet in 1960. But correct me if I’m wrong. 

 

Erika: more forecasting. 

 

Jeff: yeah, I think this is that revisionist history that’s happening with Lyle, where he’s reflecting back on things and I’m wondering how much of this story is like, this is how it happened, you know, hand to God gospel truth versus this is the way in which after a lifetime Lyle is now reflecting back on his life and he’s seeing the ways in which pop culture aligns weirdly with his experiences, or he’s kind of bent and mutated the happenings could fit within this narrative. And maybe that was because of film — I find it odd that they would have a talent show and science fair at the exact same time in the gym, that seems, I don’t think I’ve never seen that personally. Maybe that’s common? I don’t know. And so it’s like, they had this whole narrative of the science project, that’s how they really are — that’s the bug story and possibly the proving god’s existence story, and they were like, well, but we also need to have him do this like, feat. This physical feat for his friend. This show of strength for his friend who’s so weak. So, I think there’s also that dichotomy happening here too, that they like, needed it to happen. And so, I’m wondering if it’s like, he’s thinking back and he’s like, Oh yeah, the Jerry Lewis has these, you know, these sort of musical acts and carnival acts and then it’s all brought together under this, to raise money, essentially for MD. 

 

Erika: now, chronologically, so David is going to have an accident that’s going to ultimately culminate in his death. Had that happened yet? Like, was David sick already at the point of this show happening? 

 

Jeff: I believe the implication here is they have the fundraiser and then immediately afterwards David drowns. 

 

Erika: okay, speaking of revisionist, though. That scene was so much like the scene in The Sandlot. Like, I’m pretty sure it was based on that scene. 

 

Jeff: yeah, absolutely. Part of the reason why I think that laughed so hard is because it is so out of nowhere. Like, they have this great triumph and you’re assuming that this is like the denouement. Your assuming that this is going to be, like, they’re going to wrap this thing up. You know, they have a happy life or you know, maybe there’ll be a black screen and it’ll be like, David died a year later or whatever. I assumed this was going to end after the charity fundraiser. It’s a bit success, they raise all this money. He proves that evil principle wrong. But no, they’re like, David has to die and we’re going to watch it. And we now get this additional, I think it’s about 15 minutes, in which David drowns. We watch him drown and then he dies moments later from complications resulting. That’s true, according to David’s mother. David did in fact have a drowning in his family pool and it wasn’t long after that he passed away. Now, where that happens in terms of the actual timeline of events – unclear. But, according to the movie, it appears to be fundraiser, dead six months later. 

 

Erika: This is definitely a weird point of transition into talking about what went right. But, I think that what you just described, a potentially rapid descent from being pretty healthy to death, like it can happen. That captures something that can be very real. Obviously, the historical inaccuracies or, you know, the fantasies that are kind of interwoven with the retelling. You know, it’s a natural part of retelling a story but if I could kick-off our “what went right” or “what did this movie do well”. I want to come back to that point that this is Lyle’s story and I think I felt watching the movie that the whole theme around ADHD was actually treated quite well. We end up, it’s not intended to be the focal point of the story I don’t think.  

 

Jeff: mhmm. 

 

Erika: maybe it is. I mean, if you think about the fact that this is, you know, it’s called different drummers. It’s sort of implying that we have, I think, those who marched to the beat of their own drum are oddities, they’re different people, and you know, it’s not different drummer. It’s not a story about David. 

 

Jeff: yes. 

 

Erika: it’s a story about these two different drummers, these two oddballs that for whatever, they’re odd in their own ways but they’ve united. It’s a story about friendship, but the telling and again this goes back to that review that was pretty generous with the film despite remarking that it was kind of all over the place. Like I almost feel like there was also in the narrative structure sort of a portrayal of Lyle’s somewhat scattered, bouncy mind. So we, you know, I think that’s a reality of life for someone who has struggled holding attention. That there are a lot of stories that are all very pressing and they all need to be told and they might not fit neatly together but that’s how my brain works. So, that’s the story you’re getting. Really a sharp contrast, because I saw a lot of those sort of typical narratives about David that were sort of this other perspective on disability, which I think is just always a trap that you’re going to fall into when you have the person without lived experience telling the story, but the flip side of that, and something really unique about this film then, was Lyle telling his own story and this sort of nuanced conversation that came up around whether to medicate or segregate, and sort of the politics around medicating Lyle for this condition or for the symptoms that were really less bothering him and more bothering other people. 

 

Jeff: absolutely. I don’t think we’ve ever been more aligned on something. I love the fact that this film, the portrayal of ADHD is predominantly not comic in nature. Lyle is presented as kind of a funny and goofy little guy but he’s not your typical like, bouncing off the walls like wild person by any means. I think as you said, I think this storyline actually represents that in a really interesting way. In a way that has way more nuance than your typical understandings of ADHD and I honestly loved the actual complexity that was given to this medication story, right, about whether or not to medicate Lyle, and the pros and cons, the financial impact, the pressure from the school. I feel like that story line probably rings very true to a lot of people with ADHD, whether or not it was in the 1960s or in the 2010s. 

 

Erika: That was a solid strength for me. 

 

Jeff: I liked the fact that the principle eventually becomes the only real villain in this film. I think that Lyle is extremely gentle and really uplifting towards his teachers and obviously the janitor especially. He sees in all of these people friends of his and in is parents he sees friends and allies is supporters. In David’s family he finds friends and allies and supporters. At the end of the day it is only the principle who is a monster and hates Lyle more than anything. Even the police seem to love this little guy. And I actually thought it was interesting how it’s like, you can see the like creative process and Lyle as he’s presumably writing this being like, alright but I did, I kinda like my teacher in grade four and the janitor was kind of nice but I need someone mean. Well, I didn’t like the principle. The principle was the worst. So, we’ll make her the villain. But I want to know, so at the end of the film Lyle proceeds with his plan, which the principle has been against the entire time. The principle then goes into the bathroom and cries. What did that scene mean? 

 

Erika: it was baffling scene for all involved. If you remember, I think she was in conversation with the cop? 

 

Jeff: she was. 

 

Erika: and the cop is baffled, everyone is baffled. Nobody really understands. Although, you know, the fact that you brought it up, I kinda suspect that you have to take on this. 

 

Jeff: I don’t. I am still baffled to this time, after several watches, I do not understand why the principle goes to the bathroom and bawls. 

 

Erika: I don’t know, maybe the irony of it is that she seems to be having a bit of a breakdown. She’s doing that kind of like, sobbing, laughing, crying, and she’s hiding and so, I don’t know, maybe there’s something around like, she’s trying to medicate this child for not being able to contain his excesses and now she’s hiding out in the bathroom so that nobody else can witness her excesses. 

 

Jeff: mm. maybe it’s a moment of allyship. 

 

Erika: self-realization, or not self-realization, but like introspection. 

 

Jeff: Right, she realizes that she’s a bad person maybe. How did you feel about the near death experience? 

 

Erika: honestly, I loved it. I think characterizing it as a near death experience makes me sound kind of sadistic for saying that, but let me see, how to explain why I loved it. I loved it because it was so normal. There was no there was no stereotype, there was nothing. It was so organic. It’s a scene in which these two mischievous boys decide like, hey man, you wheel. This is a big hill. 

 

Jeff: Let’s rip. 

 

Erika: let’s run up this hill and fly down together. Yeahhh. Right? So this is the whole like, Lyle’s going to kill David. 

 

Jeff: [laughing] right, yes. 

 

Erika: but like it’s not even, you know? They’re fully in it together. It was totally that like, yeah. Let’s do this. And like, so much joy, totally normalizing the chair, like, hop on bud, riding on the chair and they’re flying down and it’s like oh God what’s going to happen? Is this when he’s going to die? What’s going to happen? There’s a lot of emotion, but the beauty of this scene to me is just all of that. It’s so, it just feels so normal. I don’t know, maybe you can speak to whether this is real because like, did you do this as a kid? 

 

Jeff: Absolutely when I was kid. Both my manual and electric wheelchair there was so much play. What I found interesting about this scene, and I think because in some ways this scene is a microcosm of all of the technical things that are wrong with this film, when you think about this room like a film production analysis, whatever. So, this film is set up as the climax at the very start of the film. This is not the climate of the film. This is like the midway point of the film. So I don’t know why it teases it at the very beginning and then we arrive at it, it happens and yeah. It’s a part of the plot but it’s certainly not the climax. You assume it would be. It’s not. And as it’s happening, as a viewer, you’re sitting there and you’re like I have no idea where this is going to go. Are they gonna wipe out die? Maybe. Are they gonna get run down by a car and die? Maybe. Are they going to arrive at the bottom and nothing bad will happen? Maybe. 

 

Erika: [laughing] 

 

Jeff: all of these things could have happened at the end of that scene and it fundamentally would not have changed the film. There is a sort of like subplot that as a result of it maybe Lyle and David shouldn’t be friends anymore, but you could have just taken that entire subplot out essentially and the movie is still pretty much the same. It doesn’t really necessarily change the film. So I’m like, you are forecasting a scene that doesn’t actually have a ton to do with the film even if it does give a good representation of their relationship, and then the scene happens and some things happen and it moves the plot forward I suppose, but it’s still kind of a strange scene that’s just like, shoehorned in. I also am very impressed that the two actors got as far down the hill as they did in this clearly rickety wheelchair. 

 

Erika: Oh yeah, that was the other possibility that didn’t mention was that like a wheel was gonna pop up off— 

 

Jeff: yeah the thing just, they like full send down the hill and the chair just literally rips itself apart and that, not even as a scripted part of the film, that just happened. 

 

Erika: [laughing] 

 

Jeff: a really sketchy metal wheelchair are they using. But I think you’re right. I think the fact that the wheelchair becomes a part of their play is actually pretty representative and I would not doubt for a moment that this happened and that both David and Lyle were equal conspirators in the plan to go down the hill. 

 

Erika: And just, when do you see that? Like you don’t. That’s never, I feel like, that’s the joy, that’s the cool stuff and nobody ever tells that story.  

 

Jeff: So of course we’ve talked about David’s death, but David’s death is not actually the end of the movie. It keeps going after this for just a very stereotypical and unintentionally hilarious ending. Erika, take us through the end of this film. 

 

Erika: ugh, the cringe factor is so big.  

 

Jeff: [laughing] 

 

Erika: So, the movie was supposed to end after the romp down the hill. It didn’t. Then the character died, briefly, came back to life and then he died again. So, after David dies for the second time, Lyle finds out and as Lyle is prone to, he’s overcome with “the feeling”— 

 

Jeff: The feeling. 

 

Erika: and he takes off running. And he runs through the woods, he heads back to, you know,  the places that he and David have spent time together and who should appear next to him but David. Running, in death achieving the goal that Lyle had for David’s life. 

 

Jeff: and then a freeze frame. 

 

Erika: so that you will always remember etched in your consciousness, David running. 

 

Jeff: these films seem to desire, the character must escape the chair by the end. By some way, by anyway. And maybe that way is death, but we see the exact same thing at the end of Theory of Everything, where it’s like, you could not end the story of Stephen Hawking without walking, and he wasn’t dead yet, so instead they have to like, construct this scene where Eddie Redmayne gets up out of the wheelchair and picks up a pen for an attractive woman. Freudian! It’s similar in this film, it’s like there’s this desire, like David has to run. I thought it was going to end when Lyle puts David on his back and then sort of piggybacks him and runs around. I thought, OK so they’ve wrapped that story line up — but no, they had to have this post – no, not post partum. What is that, postmortem? 

 

Erika: [laughing] post mortem. 

 

Jeff: they have to have this post mortem, although maybe actually postpartum might describe much of this film because it was a sadness after it was born. There’s this desire, this post mortem that has to happen, where he has to be seen running and he has to overcome. He has to get out of the wheelchair. It’s the payoff that we have been promised by this film and this is where I say this is a film clearly trying to sort of end on an inspirational note. It’s like they thought, well, it’s too big of a bummer to end with David dying, so we’ll end with maybe they did get to run, once, in the sun, in the forest where they used to play. 

 

[Music interlude] Summery groove with deep bass notes from “Passionfruit” by Drake 

 

Erika: alrighty, so. We have gone through the critical reception of this masterpiece. We’ve run through our hot takes, but this isn’t just a fictional story. This is very much one that is maybe not even inspired by reality, this is a true story. This is based on real life. So, we have some good possible facts, some hot trivia to uncover. I think we need to start by asking the obvious question here, Jeff, which is: why does David wear your wardrobe? Were you involved in the creation of this film? 

 

Jeff: [laughing] so, I think that they may have broken into my house because David wears definitely more than one cardigan that I’m 90% sure I own, and several other great little combos of pants and sweaters. David does not seem to have my shoe taste. He is not a sneakerhead. I don’t know if that means that David was very fashion forward or if I dress like a 1960s child.  

 

Erika: [laughing] 

 

Jeff: It’s unclear. 

 

Erika: Maybe this is a both/and. Has anyone ever mistaking you for David? 

 

Jeff: for David? That is not happened yet. In fact, if that becomes a thing, I would actually be thrilled. If people were like, oh aren’t you that guy from Different Drummers? It would be a phenomenal turn events in my life. 

 

Erika: I think you just need to start promoting the film a little harder. So we’ve talked about chairs before. Is this, the chair in this film, is this one that you have also had at some point in your life? 

 

Jeff: This was a frustration for me. I have been trying to track down what this wheelchair is, who made it, what type of wheelchair it is. It appears to have a relatively generic frame, however there are some oddities, particularly around the footrests that I have been trying to track it down. I do not know what type of wheelchair this is. I am not able to identify it. If one of our lovely listeners knows what kind of wheelchair this is, please let us know because we’re going to keeping track of all of the brands that get shout outs in these films, whether it be through usage or possibly direct product placement. 

 

Erika: I read that the actor who played Lyle was, there was a good amount of effort that went into casting Lyle. They really shot for a kid that looked like him, and not just look like him but was like him. Recruited from a Christian school, 7th grader, just like Lyle in a lot of ways. And he said not only did he himself, I don’t know if he described himself as having ADHD, but definitely as a hyper and everywhere kind of all over the place kid, but also had mentioned that he had a disabled sister who used a wheelchair, which I think is fascinating because another one of those opportunities in the film to probably approximate reality in the representation a little bit better. Like, I think the more people that have lived experience on the set involved in the film you’re probably going to get a better outcome, a more accurate outcome. 

 

Jeff: yeah, and that actually might speak to why their relationship felt kind of authentic in some ways, because this was, this this actor Bradon, was able to kind of tap into things that himself — he probably has also ridden down a hill on his sisters wheelchair at some point. 

 

Erika: [laughing] 

 

Jeff: I think that’s really fascinating. They actually do look kind of similar ,photos of young Lyle comparatively is fascinating, but there does seem to be this interesting connection with disability kind of throughout the film, which is something that we didn’t really expect when we started this project.  

 

Erika: mhm 

 

Jeff: We presumed it was going to be a lot of nondisabled people talking about the disabled and that’s not the case for this film. 

 

Erika: yeah I mean, I think when you’re looking at, when you’re looking at when you know that the end of the film is this kid who can’t walk regains the ability to walk you have pretty low expectations for the rest of the film. 

 

Jeff: right, yeah. The bar is already quite low. 

 

Erika: And although it doesn’t say that on the box, it’s very, very early in the film pretty clear that that is where this is going. 

 

Jeff: Oh yeah, yeah. Like, David is going to die or walk and bless these creators we got both. 

 

Erika: [laughing] do you have any hot trivia to bring to this? 

 

Jeff: I have a few things. So there’s two things that I have been really thinking about. So num, ber one, there is a lot of content about this film that has been made, presumably by Lyle Hatcher and Don Keran, the other cowriter and director. They have a YouTube channel, they made documentaries about this film. They have all sorts of content. They have like, on the DVD there is all this like, teaching tools and other materials. They really wrapped this movie up into a real package and as a result we actually get some really interesting stories about where this film came from. So, it is confirmed by David’s real mom in one of the documentaries that David did in fact have a “series of prophecies” that were shared to him by God. David apparently predicted the birth of a daughter, a family friend I believe was they didn’t know was pregnant. He predicted that she was not only pregnant but had a daughter, that happened. And he did in fact predict the death of his teacher. What is not shared in the film exactly, it’s kind of hinted at, the teacher was apparently chronically ill. So I don’t know if this is exactly a prophecy so much as kind of an inevitable conclusion. But I think this notion of David as prophet I think explains this film in some ways, because I would argue that Different Drummers, as much as it is about telling Lyle’s story, what I think this movie is really about is about canonizing David. I wonder if this is about trying to get David like, a sainthood status, to show these miracles that David produced. And there is this amazing quote from Lyle Hatcher, the real Lyle Hatcher, in one of documentaries where he’s talking about why he made it and, let’s roll that clip: 

 

The real Lyle: over the last 40 years I kept going back to the places that David and I, where we had our adventures, our friendship. All the fun places and the fun things we did together. The open fields, the hills the river, the school. There was something that constantly kept pushing me back in that direction. Every single time I would go back I would remember something different, something unique and maybe something that gave me comfort, and to some degree strength. Something that I was missing that I left behind. The memories of David and I have been haunting me. I need to know why. Why would something like this stay with me for 45 years? 

 

Jeff: Lyle is haunted by David’s presence. Quite literally haunted by it. It stuck with him. And he goes on to tell the story about how he went on a hike, up a mountain, and a thunderstorm happened, and he took that as a sign that “David and our friendship should be a movie.” He then proceeds to work for 8 and a half years to write, fund, produce and eventually film this movie with the help of a local film studio guy named Don Karan. It went from like, a five-page script into a full-fledged feature film which was put out in theatres and people went and saw it. It made just under $20,000 I believe in box office, which I also believe is well below the budget of this film. I think they spent a ton of money on this movie and I don’t believe they made it back. But, that might be wrong and if I’m wrong, good for you. That’s great. But I think that the way that Lyle talks about the film really reveals that this isn’t just about his own personal narrative, which we both actually thought would have been better perhaps, as being the focus of this, but really I think this is about the light the mystical religious relationship between disabled people and God, higher power, whatever it might be. This idea that it, just as in Miracle in Lane 2, God doesn’t make mistakes. That David’s disability provides him this deeper connection to a higher power, which I think we’re going to hear a lot in many of these films. 

 

Erika: This is fascinating. It really, it is fascinating that that this is a story that gets told and retold, that people feel so profoundly touched by their brushes with disability. 

 

Jeff: that it literally haunted him and he had to tell this story, he had to — maybe this is an act of remembrance, maybe it’s an act of revealing a life that is otherwise not talked about or not shared, not honored, perhaps. But I think I’m with you. I think these are actually stories that are continually honored, continually shared, to the point that it’s the only story that we start to hear is about this disabled people who are troubled, they have a hard life, but that this connection with God, which maybe makes it worth it or implies that there’s a rational reason for it to happen, that sanitizes it in some ways, and then allows them to be, to stand as these sort of religious objects. So Lyle then is able to show his compassion through his ability to care for David, to support David, and to love David. 

 

Erika: I think we are making a very natural slide out of trivia and into final thoughts here. 

 

Jeff: so, Erika, final thoughts on Different Drummers 

 

Erika: My final thoughts on Different Drummers are that I am once again surprised. I came in pretty ready to tear this apart and for all of its problematic tropes and representations, I am pleasantly surprised to find through deeper analysis some merit. I once again hesitate to give this film too much praise, but you know, we’re not really here to judge the film itself. We’re really here to talk about how did it treat disability, and I think it treated disability in some decently realistic ways and it, through the stories that it told, it has certainly made for some thought provoking conversation. 

 

Jeff: when I think about Different Drummers and I think about this broader project of Invalid Culture, I’m struck by this question about whether or not it is possible to both make a good movie and a progressive movie at the same time. Because it appears as though like, objectively Different Drummers is a bad movie. It is poorly made, it is it is all over the place, I think all of the critiques of this film are completely accurate from like a film perspective. I do not recommend this film to anybody. And so then, we have to ask ourselves, is the general audience, is the truth of disability an aesthetic that actually lends itself to movies that we perceive as powerful, evocative, interesting, artistic or good? Can we actually make a good movie on both sides of that equation. A technically good and also disability good? I wanna say yes, I want to believe that that’s possible, but I wonder how many of these movies that make good points are getting bogged down by the ways that they don’t reflect what is presumed to be examples of good disability art. So this movie doesn’t break through because it’s not Rain Man and people are left looking at it as a bingo bargain, bargain bin purchase, as opposed to some sort of legitimate artistic interrogation of childhood with various disabilities. But at the same time, it’s a bad movie. 

 

Erika: well, and I think, like, we are definitely being generous with it but I think one of the traps that we see here and that we’re likely to see time and again is that these are “other” narratives. These are not people telling their own story, these are people telling someone else’s story and so I think that we are always, they sort of, these films lack the technical success to bring these stereotypical tropes which people love. Our Amazon reviews confirm. 

 

Jeff: absolutely. 

 

Erika: they lack the technical quality to bring these lovable, mainstream lovable stories to success, but they lack the storytelling power of a narrative that’s grounded in lived experience. And again, that’s that was that was what made this film for me, was that it had that aspect. So, I think we carry on in our quest to find some first-person narratives that are like, people who set out to tell their own story. 

 

Jeff: my hot take for tonight’s episode, our closing thought, we’re not gonna see any self representation on this podcast because I don’t think that those films will reach our high low bar for trashy, trashy content.  

 

[Outro music] Hip hop beat from “Hard Out Here For a Gimp” by Wheelchair Sports Camp 

 

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